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Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe

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Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe

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Post by legitster »

This is an example of the potential double-edged sword of passing legislation without input from lobbyists. On one hand, without an industry voice, they passed an amazingly ambitious set of protections. On the other hand, it doesn't seem like there was a technical industry expert who warned them of the implications.

(I say that, but the EU bureaucrats that passed this law may actually see the immense numbers of popups as a win still - who knows).

A revision is patently obvious to seemingly everyone - revise the law to instead mandate that websites respect the Do Not Track header, or at least have designed a more granular replacement. There's no reason you shouldn't just be able to set it once and your browser tracks it for you.

Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe

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Post by tonymet »

ravenstine wrote: post #37
tonymet wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

content-based adblocking requires tremendous resources, and no longer works in Chrome, which is the primary browser.

Those resources are well spent.

my point is that it's not "fixed". The issue plagues 99.9% of internet users.

Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe

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Post by elashri »

I would like to present my opinion that this amount of time is spent dealing with website malicious compliance with EU rules. And it is in general asking people to get tracked and present them with personalized track or share/sell the data to their partners. All of these does not happen and you don't have to do that if you don't track and collect information about your users. Well there are some genuine websites that needs that but I am talking about the general case.

Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe

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Post by immibis »

cluckindan wrote: post #57
diggan wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hop into your uBlock Origin settings and enable the Cookie Banner filters (and enable the Annoyances filters too, while you're in there). Fixed. Except for the pesky sites that somehow disable (or rather "not enable") certain things until you've "answered" the banner. Can't remember what site I hit that on most recently, but I had to disable uBlock, reload the page, click "Deny", and then the video/element worked.

And by hitting that ”deny” button, you have ”consented” to hundreds if not thousands of data brokers around the world processing all your personal data gathered throughout your life across all your devices. They can now freely buy your data from other brokers to enrich their profile of you. Should have unchecked those 973 legitimate interest checkboxes they hid under the ”affiliates” or ”vendors” or ”providers” or wh…

If they're doing that after you clicked Deny, the government can come down hard on them. Sadly, only the government - individuals can't sue companies for GDPR violations.

Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe

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Post by serial_dev »

coldpie wrote: post #6

Hop into your uBlock Origin settings and enable the Cookie Banner filters. Fixed. Enable the Annoyances filters too, while you're in there. If you're on iOS, the Kill Sticky bookmarklet does a decent job of cleaning these up without breaking most sites: https://www.smokingonabike.com/2024/01/20/take-back-your-web...

While I appreciate your workarounds, the issue is not fixed. Almost everyone is going to keep clicking these stupid banners. It’s not okay, it’s not fixed until the rules are adjusted and we have less tracking and’s less pointless banners.

Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe

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Post by ben_w »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #53
diggan wrote: post #41

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> You're dealing with the EU. Stupidly high fines happen weekly. Thank you for making it clear you wasn't taking the conversation seriously, I almost thought someone could hold opinions like that in real life, but I'm happy it wasn't so.

Tell that to Emanuel Macron, who has openly said that the EU might literally die functionally, if not politically, in just 2-3 years due to sheer economic lack of competitiveness. "Our former model is over. We are overregulating and underinvesting. In the two to three years to come, if we follow our classical agenda, we will be out of the market." "If we want clearly to be more competitive and have our place in this…

Link does not support claim "Stupidly high fines happen weekly."

I've worked with two firms that have faced GDPR complaints. It's "up to", not "immediately on your first offence".

Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

ben_w wrote: post #69
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell that to Emanuel Macron, who has openly said that the EU might literally die functionally, if not politically, in just 2-3 years due to sheer economic lack of competitiveness. "Our former model is over. We are overregulating and underinvesting. In the two to three years to come, if we follow our classical agenda, we will be out of the market." "If we want clearly to be more competitive and have our place in this…

Link does not support claim "Stupidly high fines happen weekly." I've worked with two firms that have faced GDPR complaints. It's "up to", not "immediately on your first offence".

> I've worked with two firms that have faced GDPR complaints. It's "up to", not "immediately on your first offence".

It's not specifically GDPR - it's the degree of overregulation in every sector, for almost every aspect of doing business. I was also speaking facetiously about large companies in particular - for example, just 12 hours ago, Facebook got hit with another $700 million fine. You don't have to be Facebook for the chilling effect. Or, the EU's stuff with Apple, the $12 billion fine against the will of Ireland, which has Apple assessing the profitability of even being in Europe.

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