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Re: Wonder is acquiring Grubhub

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Support your local restaurants. Don’t let these vampire platform companies enshitify your city’s food scene.

We say shopping at Whole Foods, Walmart, and Kroger.

What point are you trying to make? Seems like a failure of government to enforce monopolization laws than individual consumers.

Re: Wonder is acquiring Grubhub

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This part feels like The Onion. 30 private taxis coordinating for your meal. "customers can order from upwards of 30 restaurants in a single order, with each item being made-to-order in a sequenced fashion so that they finish simultaneously and can be delivered to the customer together."

A Wonder just opened near my house, and the "different restaurants" seem to really be just different sections of a large menu with distinct branding. I.e., there is a single physical kitchen that makes food from the different "restaurants".

Yeah, it's a cloud kitchen with a eating area.

I don't think anyone thinks this is "innovation"... it's just a slightly different take on Uber Eats / Spoonrocket / food courts / cloud kitchens / etc.

And if there is an "innovation", it's the vertical integration... it's a business "innovation," not a tech one.

Re: Wonder is acquiring Grubhub

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post #54
post #46

This part feels like The Onion. 30 private taxis coordinating for your meal. "customers can order from upwards of 30 restaurants in a single order, with each item being made-to-order in a sequenced fashion so that they finish simultaneously and can be delivered to the customer together."

A Wonder just opened near my house, and the "different restaurants" seem to really be just different sections of a large menu with distinct branding. I.e., there is a single physical kitchen that makes food from the different "restaurants".

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Re: Wonder is acquiring Grubhub

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where did all the money go?

Earlier investors. Ever hear of pump and dump ? After you sell you’re insulated from future performance as long as you don’t commit actual fraud etc.

> Earlier investors. Ever hear of pump and dump?

When did GrubHub buy early investors' shares with company cash?

Re: Wonder is acquiring Grubhub

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Those weird ghost kitchen things have more than half a billion dollars to spend on acquisitions?! I wonder how this came to be - did they already have that big of a war chest, or did they hear they could buy a name brand and go back to their investors to finance it?

IMHO it's sort of the inverse*: its not that weird ghost kitchen things have $500 mil for acquisitions, its that Marc Lore has enough salesmanship to get private capital to lend $100M to get a turnkey delivery business for his food entrepreneurship, and the banker loans can pretty it up to sound like $600M, and the decision makers at GrubHub get a mildly-embarrassing outcome instead of an extreme outcome. (shutdown)…

I think that future loosening of the credit markets due to political factors is also playing a roll. By the time the runway is spent they may expect to be in a very different market so buying scale now is the move.

Re: Wonder is acquiring Grubhub

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How do these deals work? I am assuming, and I could be very wrong, that Wonder is smaller by market cap than Grubhub.

Both companies are private, so neither has a "market cap". They just need to agree on a price. In this case, GrubHub had taken on a bunch of debt; Wonder agreed to assume it, and GrubHub's owners/investors get $150M in cash.

> Both companies are private, so neither has a "market cap"

Private companies have shares. Given a per-share price, you can get a market cap. For a company with debt, like GrubHub, enterprise value is a better metric.

Re: Wonder is acquiring Grubhub

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post #48

Ghost kitchens are the biggest scam in the food delivery world. why would anyone pay for an unsanitary kitchen to fry them up some frozen food?

Who says they're unsanitary? Are they not subject to the same kinds of health inspections that regular restaurants have to go through?

In they U.S. they are often converted shipping containers or poorly regulated rental kitchens

Re: Wonder is acquiring Grubhub

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Ghost kitchens are the biggest scam in the food delivery world. why would anyone pay for an unsanitary kitchen to fry them up some frozen food?

Many normal restaurants do a lot of heating up pre-prepared food as well.

The point still stands, at least you get table service and hot food if you go into the restaurant
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