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Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by kelnos »

I use Fastmail, and have found their Android app to be functional, but lackluster (no offline access being one of my biggest gripes). I hadn't used Thunderbird on the desktop in a good 15-20 years, so I figured I'd give this a try.

It is very snappy (unlike how I remember desktop Thunderbird all those years ago), and seems to work well so far, though it's a little bare-bones feature-wise. One thing that is unfortunate is it doesn't appear to be able to recognize Fastmail's "pinned" messages and map them to "starred" messages. That alone will keep Fastmail's own app on my phone.

Fastmail also has different actions for marking as spam and reporting phishing; I'm not sure how effective the latter is, but of course Thunderbird doesn't support it, as presumably that's a Fastmail-proprietary thing.

I'll probably keep it and see if it can serve as my daily driver, with the Fastmail app as a fallback for pinned messages for now.

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by bayindirh »

RicoElectrico wrote: post #53
devsda wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having two separate apps has additional benefit of acting like insurance against any automated/manual playstore review surprises.

Quite the opposite I think, some braindead bot can count that as spoofing or something.

They are coming from the same developer with the same certificates, how come?

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by zahllos »

aidenn0 wrote: post #49
vzaliva wrote: post #28

I do not know how it is financed, but I would rather have them use these funds to fix desktop version first. Content advisory: longish rant ahead. I have 4 email accounts: 2 Gmail, 1 Outlook, and 1 ProtonMail. I also use Google Calendar and Outlook Calendar. The reason I switched to Thunderbird was to manage them all in one uniform UI instead of keeping 6 open tabs. I tried hard to love it, but after about 6 months,…

Gnome evolution works great; I've used it with everything you are talking about except ProtonMail. It defaults to the bizarre Gnome look (no native controls, toolbar buttons haphazardly strewn through the title bar), but you can change it in the preferences if you hate that as much as I do.

I have been using evolution as well.

I have a relatively niche use case where thunderbird would no longer find my smime certificate on my smart card. But only in the compose/send UI, not in settings.

While I understand not many people are doing this, it also... Used to work, and I would have thought that detecting regressions in X.509 cert validation should be well covered by tests.

In comparison, evolution works.

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by pomian »

This is great. I suppose the improvements will arrive soon. I used to use Thunderbird on Android long ago. (K-9 has done it's part in filling the gap sincce then.) It has always been a neat system to use - Thunderbird on desktops, and on cell phones(used to be on iphones also, I think.) though not linked, the same freedom of self mail control. A very good way to archive all your mail, as you want, without externalities. IMAP and PoP.

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by johnea »

After decades of a love/hate relationship with thunderbird mail reader, I sure hope this isn't the beginning of the end of decent email on android 8-/

K-9 also has it's faults, but it's been a pretty good ophone mail reader.

Thunderbird, under the ever declining mozilla foundation's wing, continues to make nonsensical changes while still failing to fetch mail into all IMAP folders (among a number of other fundamental functional failures).

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by exe34 »

bayindirh wrote: post #62
RicoElectrico wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite the opposite I think, some braindead bot can count that as spoofing or something.

They are coming from the same developer with the same certificates, how come?

the rules aren't meant to make sense, they're there to make a profit. individuals are sacrificed everyday to the god of profits.

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by zxspectrum1982 »

Nice but there are a zillion mobile e-mail clients already. What I really wish is a good desktop e-mail client for Linux that I can use for enterprise use: - Thunderbird is heavy, slow and the UI feels dated - KMail was very advanced 15-20 years ago but it's lagged behind and even HTML e-mail is semibroken today - evolution... well, let's say it has not really evolved in the past 10 years, since Red Hat lost interest in the desktop - others (Geary, Trojita, etc) are toys and unfit for enterprise usage

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by beej71 »

Moving an item to the trash in Android TB (IMAP) doesn't seem to actually move it on the server. Webmail still shows it in the inbox. I see it in the trash in Android, but it refuses to let me move it out of the trash there, saying, "Cannot copy or move a message that is not synchronized with the server". The synchronize button and restarting don't have an effect.

Is this a bug or do I have some misunderstanding about IMAP and a misconfiguration?

K-9 deletes as expected.

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by wheels »

kelnos wrote: post #61

I use Fastmail, and have found their Android app to be functional, but lackluster (no offline access being one of my biggest gripes). I hadn't used Thunderbird on the desktop in a good 15-20 years, so I figured I'd give this a try. It is very snappy (unlike how I remember desktop Thunderbird all those years ago), and seems to work well so far, though it's a little bare-bones feature-wise. One thing that is unfortunat…

It's not surprising that this feels different than Thunderbird as it's a completely separate app with a separate background just being rebranded with Thunderbird identity. There's probably some effort to make them play nice together, but K-9's been around for ages (I think I've been using it for more than a decade).

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by pepve »

kelnos wrote: post #61

I use Fastmail, and have found their Android app to be functional, but lackluster (no offline access being one of my biggest gripes). I hadn't used Thunderbird on the desktop in a good 15-20 years, so I figured I'd give this a try. It is very snappy (unlike how I remember desktop Thunderbird all those years ago), and seems to work well so far, though it's a little bare-bones feature-wise. One thing that is unfortunat…

> Fastmail also has different actions for marking as spam and reporting phishing; I'm not sure how effective the latter is, but of course Thunderbird doesn't support it, as presumably that's a Fastmail-proprietary thing.

I don't think there's anything proprietary going on, so I did a quick search. Fastmail supports JMAP [0], and JMAP [1] supports setting special keywords [2] for a message to mark it as spam of phishing. It may be possible to get this to work.

[0] https://www.fastmail.com/dev/

[1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8621.html

[2] https://www.iana.org/assignments/imap-jmap-keywords/imap-jma...

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