As a long time Opera user, I like to say that I am proudly part of the 1%!
I don't use opera, but I guess I'm part of the other 1% in that I don't use any google services (outside of basic search).
Google Service Drops Support for Opera
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Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Even though Google is a major corporation, I doubt they can afford to spend the time fixing issues in a browser that gets lower single digit uses. You're joking, I hope? Of course Google has the resources. It's one of the biggest companies in tech. Not only does Google have the money to do it, but it really looks bad by not supporting Opera and telling people to use Chrome. Just to prevent that bad publicity it wou…
Didn't Google give up on IE6 for some of their services when it had less than 20% market share? Opera has 1-2% market share. Granted, it should be a lot easier to tweak their code for Opera, but the difference in market share is pretty big, too.
I think it was less the market share than the incredible pain that supporting IE6 had become.
Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera
#63Worry given of all the browsers Opera has been the most standards compliant. No reason why Google can't support it as by supporting other browsers they supoprt Opera and with that if you change the browser ID then it just works - funny that. I Have noticed that Facebook have been bashing google indirectly and directly and maybe Opera are deemed part of Facebook now for some reason and got dragged into this. I have al…
They do have a rather loyal following and I've used it off and on since 2006 (when it was first free with no ads) and still think it has some advantages over other browsers. I also think their Opera Mini for mobile is the best mobile browser out there (it was the #1 mobile browser in 2011).
They have decent developer tools and have been early adopters of a lot of the HTML5 and CSS3 specs. I'm pretty sure they were first to make it possible to use HTML5 video and audio.
It just bums me out they can't seem to get more market share.
Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera
#64Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera
#65Philosophically, I'd like every web page/app/widget/etc to be browser agnostic, and deliver an A-Grade user experience; but this is getting blown out of proportion.
1. Blogger ditching support for Opera, means the population that uses Opera to administer a Blogger blog is affected. Of all Opera users, how many administer a Blogger blog?
2. Browsers are just applications. Doesn't mean you have to do everything in one browser. Administer your Blogger blog in not-Opera; use Opera to consume your favorite web cotent.
Easy solution? Download another browser. If it upsets you that much, move your blog to another platform.
Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
LOL Opera is the browser that adheres to the specifications most closely, and yet it is the least usable. Why? Because web developers don't test with it. Specs are irrelevant. Testing is relevant, and testing is caused by marketshare.
It is a chicken and egg case, right? Without support, no increase in market share, and no market share means, no support. Hence it is sad that a big player like Google does this, in an apparent act of getting more people on to Chrome. If Google does no evil, they will support ( we all know they can ) the most standards compliant browser.
Opera was at 4% last time I checked. Has that changed? If not, I find it hard to believe that's the motive.
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#67"The reason I felt it important to pass on this news to non-Opera users is that I’m wondering if Google are going to stop at Opera? I get the sense that this could be the thin end of a wedge, and that Opera may not be the only browser which ends up getting the cold shoulder." I doubt Google will give a cold shoulder to browsers with actual market share. I'm glad Opera exists to keep a check on the other browser maker…
A user base of 300,000,000 means they can't have less than 4.2% market share, even if the whole population of the earth were online.
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Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is a chicken and egg case, right? Without support, no increase in market share, and no market share means, no support. Hence it is sad that a big player like Google does this, in an apparent act of getting more people on to Chrome. If Google does no evil, they will support ( we all know they can ) the most standards compliant browser.
Opera was at 4% last time I checked. Has that changed? If not, I find it hard to believe that's the motive.
It has. Their market share was at 2% at the beginning of this year, and has now fallen to 1.7%. It's falling month after month. There's no reason to expect their market share will increase any time soon.
Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera
#69Google is pushing all other browsers out of their way. How is this not evil?
Opera walks on to a site.
And Google says: We dont serve your kind here.
Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera
#70google is frankly starting to enrage me, they are seeming to become more and more a company with only one obvious goal - own the internet. They have made some good products ( the chrome developer tools are great ), but I'm sick of them just blowing over anyone or anything that stands in their seeming quest towards a complete monopoly ( the google books settlement is a good example ). What happen to the good ol days w…
The Chrome Developer tools are almost entirely based on the open source Webkit Web Inspector.