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Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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Post by _2d30 »

ketzo wrote: post #54
_2d30 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's pretty rare for a mostly developed country to collapse into poverty without a war. Since when was Cuba, post Castro, anything other than impoverished?

That’s not fundamentally wrong , but you are missing the degree of change. Shit has gotten so bad, so fast, relative to what it was before.

I'm not missing anything. I was very clearly implying one specific point that Cuba has never been a "mostly developed country" and has been impoverished ever since Castro and the communists took over.

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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Post by pjmlp »

bpodgursky wrote: post #43
einszwei wrote: post #22

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/where-to-watch-the-debateand-... Sanctions on Cuba have strangled their economy and spread misery among the population. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112 US is almost alone in spearheading the embargo.

If the US is "almost alone", it shouldn't matter that the US isn't trading with Cuba. It's an island, there are plenty of countries they could trade with. Cuba is collapsing because of failed economic policies and the resulting emigration.

No there isn't, the selection is reduced to those that couldn't care less about US, as anyone that dares to trade with Cuba is also affected in their US trade.

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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Post by _2d30 »

pjmlp wrote: post #58
oldnetguy wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cuba can trade with anyone else. They trade with Canada for heck sake. They have the whole world, their economy shouldn't need us. Let them work with China and see how well that works out

No they cannot, as US imposes sanction on any country that defies the embargo, so Cuba ends up trading with those that couldn't care less about US embargos.

And yet billions in trade with the EU:

https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/isdb_results/factsheets/country...

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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Post by _2d30 »

portaouflop wrote: post #57
_2d30 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cuba wouldn't ally with the US in its current form. It's openly hostile to the US. It's like suggesting Venezuela allying with the US.

The Cuban gov would trade with the US if there was some way to end the sanctions and save face. But I don’t see that happening. Openly hostile lmao it’s such a tiny insignificant island nation- I never understood why the US should be afraid of Cuba - they are just vengeful after losing assets in the revolution. They managed to stamp every single one out in Latin America but viva was defiant. It’s all about ideology n…

> lmao it’s such a tiny insignificant island nation- I never understood why the US should be afraid of Cuba

lmao wait until you find out how much damage a nuclear warhead can do and how small they are. They can even fit on a tiny insignificant island nation!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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Post by xvector »

K0balt wrote: post #10

It’s unfortunate that Cuba is so reliant on inefficient oil fired plants. Solar power could easily cover their needs if it weren’t for the economic and sanctions situation. I feel like we will be seeing this bloom into a more political situation before too long.

Nothing is stopping them from trading with China.

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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Post by crummy »

pack_stimulus wrote: post #65

Commies bringing misery to people unfortunate enough to be subject to their governance: hardly shocking. Commie apologists complaining about US sanctions: pathetic.

I'm not an American so not educated on this. Are the sanctions considered successful? What are their goals?

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Post by immibis »

serial_dev wrote: post #38
einszwei wrote: post #22

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/where-to-watch-the-debateand-... Sanctions on Cuba have strangled their economy and spread misery among the population. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112 US is almost alone in spearheading the embargo.

The economic model and decisions of Cuba is a terrible idea and could never work. To show you how confident we are in this, we will engineer the harshest economic hit job and we will sanction the sh out of them, and every other country that tries something similar. Respectfully, the US and its lackeys

Second harshest - Gaza has worse.

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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Post by bpodgursky »

pjmlp wrote: post #58
oldnetguy wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cuba can trade with anyone else. They trade with Canada for heck sake. They have the whole world, their economy shouldn't need us. Let them work with China and see how well that works out

No they cannot, as US imposes sanction on any country that defies the embargo, so Cuba ends up trading with those that couldn't care less about US embargos.

Is the US sanctioning Canada? I must have missed that news.

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #29
catlikesshrimp wrote: post #26

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What can Cuba offer? Same problem with Haiti, what can Haiti offer? Not even China seems interested in paying peanuts for them (The way they are buying Nicaragua and Venezuela)

Cuba's exports are $2B, Haiti's exports are $63M. They are a little different.

Did you ask AI about Haiti's exports. 63M might be a monthly average of some year. I think they are higher than $1B

Did the same AI tell you about Cuban exports? At least $2B is in the same ballpark, but definitely lower.

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