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Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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I actually did post on your feedback site nearly a year ago, still no feedback or response on it so far [0]. It's been marked as under review, so it must be one thorough review process. [0] https://kagifeedback.org/d/2565-image-search-doesnt-respect-...

Thanks, replied in the thread.

That's kind of you, but if you have to resort to HN comments as your feedback system, then your existing feedback system doesn't really work, does it?

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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If you forget it's not Google, I don't want to sign up. I want something that reminds me all the time that it's not Google, mainly by its ability to actually find the things I search for.

I suppose what they mean is that it's easy to forget that it isn't Google from ten years ago when Google was good?

Exactly. Going to real Google now is like ?? How did I use this before?

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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I'm a subscriber. But I don't feel like creating a signup for kagifeedback. https://kagi.com/images?q=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fp... Lets use this as an example. I would personally like to have a list of exact results. Separately - a list of similar images would maybe be nice. But tbh, 99.99% of the time with reverse image search, I am trying to play detective, not find similar images. I am usually looking to…

> I'm a subscriber. But I don't feel like creating a signup for kagifeedback. It's a separate login? That's really weird, isn't it?

Not really. It's not that uncommon for a support/forum/feedback site to use a separate account. It just means that they didn't have time, didn't want to spend the money, or couldn't link the support software to their main user account system.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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Still, give Kagi a chance. I don't work for them, I don't have friends who work for them, I'm just a guy who uses Kagi and will never look back. It isn't expensive and it's SO worth it.

Switched about ten months ago and it’s been so good I forget it’s even not Google sometimes.

The only thing that reminds me it’s not Google is when I search for a place I don’t get a good map that then allows me to route to the place. Still use Google for that.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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Still, give Kagi a chance. I don't work for them, I don't have friends who work for them, I'm just a guy who uses Kagi and will never look back. It isn't expensive and it's SO worth it.

Switched about ten months ago and it’s been so good I forget it’s even not Google sometimes.

For me there are plusses and minuses. It doesn't push ads, but it doesn't seem quite so good at picking out phrases in the query. So I will search for something and then have to go back and quote the phrases

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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Same, best digital product I’ve spent money on in a long time. It’s an improvement over Google, and well worth the price.

I tried it for two months and it was good, but not that much better that I'd spend $10/mo on it. The results were basically about the same as DDG. I can't really relate to all the praise I see about it. However, I do have to say that, when I was looking for a very specific post, I spent around twenty minutes on Google and DDG and they came back with trash, whereas Kagi found it right away. In that one instance it was…

I don't feel I have enough ground truth to know how good Kagi's search is in absolute terms (eg. there are plenty of searches where I still just "fail to find" and I don't know if it's my fault or theirs), I just know that I get less "junk" results with it than with DDG by far. With the additional ability to customize results and filters, I'd say it's a good product and it's worth a small subscription fee.

The quality of all free search is just bad. Kagi, even when it fails, is basically the difference between me looking for something or just giving up and deciding it's not worthwhile. Kagi's not magic-tier like early Google was - it's basically just the only modern web search engine.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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> By default, Kagi Image Search downranks images from websites with a high proportion of AI-generated content. Is this incentive for sites to avoid/discourage AI-generated images, to avoid that hurting search rankings?

That's definitely the incentive it produces but given Kagi's market share, I imagine it will have pretty much zero effect on sites' behavior. It's much more (and quite valuable) a browser-side improvement.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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Thanks, replied in the thread.

That's kind of you, but if you have to resort to HN comments as your feedback system, then your existing feedback system doesn't really work, does it?

I do not think this is a case of that happening like with other big tech names treating customers like shit until they make it onto HN. Vlad's super active (like, is he ok?) on the Orion browser bugs/feedback forums so I have to assume the same is true of Kagi, their actual money maker. Sometimes things fall through the cracks. One data point isn't a trend.
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