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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

#61
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> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

I generally agree with this sentiment of people being too tethered to technology and not paying attention to the world around them, but I don't see a problem with it on a flight. You're generally going to be seated in one place for hours at a time. It's much more infuriating to be walking out of the subway here in NYC and people are just in zombie mode walking up the stairs slowly while staring at their phones. Or do…

Well put! Though I would argue that the issue being discussed is not short-term distraction in highly dangerous situations like driving a car or sharing a sidewalk in NYC, but rather the long-term psychological effects of filling every spare moment with entertainment. Ever since being forced to bus an hour+ to high school (sans smart phone! Can you imagine?!) I've learned to appreciate what long stretches of contemplation can do for a person. Or, at least, do for me.

Of course, my attention span typically maxes out around 2h unless I'm in a particularly thoughtful place in life, such as my bus ride to a new city after undergrad graduation, or the flight home after a big family event. And, of course, being in the window seat is a must -- you'd have to be something of a zen master to peacefully "raw-dog" a flight by just starting at the seat in front of you!

Rant aside, I absolutely agree that being stuck in place for hours at a time is good reason to want some form of entertainment, and this is arguably the perfect application for VR. Being stuck on a long bus/train/plane without entertainment can feel downright claustrophobic, and it's not like there's any communication with others anyway. Other than the nice flight attendants, which we still have, for some weird reason -- I thought it was a nice touch to clarify that talking to them with the headset for more than a phrase or two feels disrespectful.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

#62

tangent, but: i think reclining your seat in economy class is incredibly selfish. i wish they'd weld them all.

A little bit of reclining means the difference between my head drooping forward or to either side if I fall asleep (very uncomfortable) or staying in a vertical position with the weight slightly on the back of the head (far more comfortable).

This is really a case of "don't hate the player, hate the game" (be mad at the airlines for packing people in like sardines, don't be mad at the people for trying to take a bit of extra comfort which has been made available to them)

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

#63
post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

In a crowded plane you don't want to sit next to someone who tuned out their environment

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

#64
These are an order of magnitude cheaper and will display whatever you can stick USB-C into:

https://www.xreal.com/

One area in which they’re significantly worse is tracking — they only really work well with the screen in a fixed position relative to your eyes, but this has been great for a movie.

I can’t get them setup to program on well tho

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

#65

tangent, but: i think reclining your seat in economy class is incredibly selfish. i wish they'd weld them all.

Being in an airplane seat for any amount of time is unpleasant. IMO, getting upset at the person in front reclining the allocated 2 inches to ease some of that discomfort sounds vaguely narcissistic. If you want to get upset, get upset at the airline.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

#66
post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> people regularly find themselves in.

To me this is the most intriguing part of it all.

I understand tech reviewers and journalists raving about having something to do on planes, as they probably spend an awful lot of time there. Then perhaps sales people also flighting on company's dime.

But regular people don't spend much time on planes, and many of them don't need it to be an entertaining or efficient time, they can just spleep if the flight is long enough (I can't imagine lugging along a luggage the size of the Vision Pro for just a 2 hour flight)

In particular the plane staff won't let you tune completely out if you're awake: the whole safety sequence , take off and landing, turbulences, the in-flight meal, all the guidance for international flights, your neighbours when you've pulled the middle seat etc.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

#67

I guess the flip side of this is that you look like a fucking dork.

I was a high school computer nerd in the 80's. They all said that about me then too, and I didn't care.

But to your point, it will probably get slicker over time. For this one, they erred on the side of high fidelity, and they nailed it pretty well.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

#68
post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> And it's basically not possible to escape that environment until the plane lands

You can buy a business class ticket. I will hasard that the overlap between people who can afford to buy a 3000$ VR headset and people who can fly business is pretty much total.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

#69
post #27

Just reading this blog makes me feel like it is actually not a great device to travel with. For me, a good travel device is one that takes up minimal room when packing to the point where it becomes easy to forget I even have it in my bag. The Vision Pro typically requires its own dedicated spot on top of your carry on as you go through the airport - kind of the opposite. The author talks about just packing it with a…

I travel regularly with a vr headset and it takes a minority of my carry on space packed in a protective case. Non issue.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's a 1% problem, but it's a 40% problem: https://www.airlines.org/new-survey-nearly-90-percent-of-ame... 44% of Americans flew commercially in 2022.

There's a whole world outside of the USA.

Sure, but 11% of the global population fly in a year

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802...

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