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MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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Re: MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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Can I ctrl-paste the contents of my phone's clipboard onto my Linux computer? How many hours would that take to set up? Because that works out of the box with Macs and iPhones. Pretty useful daily.

It's quite easy with kdeconnect.

Except it requires VPN when not on the same LAN for some reason...

Re: MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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Some areas of expertise require so much work, it nearly prevents the student from learning to appreciate the intent, the craft, itself. It's like being literally unable to dog Opening a laptop, even if the last activity was blaring obnoxious carnival music, should _allow_, not _demand_ the user to resume their last function - which was explicitly to _pause_ the laptop, by closing the lid. If I close the lid, I am don…

You're asking the OSes to actually implement proper session management and centralized leak controls? It has never happened before...

The thread shouldn't pause with AudioContext frozen in an "active" status. The thread unpauses, the AudioContext resumes before the next frame (whever thatll be) comes to remember to pause it.

Windows 7 with Youtube can figure out - even with hibernation breaking audio/bluetooth on windows - then surely the most expensive company and OS 15 years later has made an inkling of progress (if that was ever their intention)

Re: MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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The differences between governments and megacorps are dwindling and the two are becoming much more alike one another. We already live in global technofeudalism.

Alas, no. By and large, governments are still vastly less competent than multinational corporations. MNCs also don't force you to pay taxes or buy their products.

I never got this sentiment. Corporations as viewed from the inside are wildly incompetent—and that's before you consider profit inefficiency. I suspect this would be a lot more obvious if it weren't for the last seventy years of intentionally hampering government from competing with the market players directly. Once a product hits enshittification it benefits everyone (but shareholders, who contribute nothing to society) to nationalize the production and provide it at zero margin.

Re: MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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The first boot after a macOS system update has long been bugged out. It launches a bunch of apps you didn’t even have open before updating, seems to be the 5-10 most recent apps you quit. Yes they were fully quit, yes I have the “resume” setting off. It also doesn’t do a resume, it launches them, i.e. tells them to create new windows, and it launches them before it finishes mounting disks, resulting in every update b…

It seems to launch all the apps you had open when you pressed the "Update" button, even if that was 30 minutes before the installation began.

Re: MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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> Printing from web browser on a Mac? Completely broken. Doing this more than a decade? Didn't see any brokenness to be honest. > Wanna use your 7 year old Mac to browse the web? Oh wait you can't because the os blocks it. Nope. My 2014 MBP is a happy camper and use it daily at home. No blocks whatsoever. > Linux on desktop has been ready for years now, it absolutely shreds apple and microsofts offerings That's true…

Man printing is broken on macs I've had a handful of callouts for exactly that lately on a ramge of different macs. Same with print from iphones. Broken, and when it breaks you get zero ways to chase whats going wrong. Meanwhile every other device on site have zero problems. I literally spend a large portion of my days dealing with these problems for a variety of clients on a variety of sites. It's at a point with Ap…

I usually use my Macs with a fleet of printers from Xerox, Samsung and HP. Only the (archaic) Xerox needed a .ppd file from Xerox. The others are running with default drivers supplied with the system, and all work as first-class citizens, with all their features enabled (incl. the Xerox).

Same is true for iPhone/AirPrint. As long as the mDNS packets are unhindered in the network, and the printer has semi-decent AirPrint support, they work automagically. Again, Samsung and HP printers are networked and AirPrint enabled.

All any any devices (Linux / Windows / macOS / iOS / Android) on their respective networks can and do print without any drivers to these printers. They start printing instantly, with all features enabled, and honoring all options selected in the print dialog.

I have two Google accounts on my iPhone and Mac, but only one of them uses passkeys IIRC, and absolutely have no problems for now. Will look out for the scenario though, thanks.

Re: MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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it also leaks the audio of tabs before logging in. Even though I had disabled all 'restore' applications features, macos sometimes decides to 'start' browsers BEFORE logging in after a restart AND those start auto-playing audio from whatever was paused before the reboot (or many days before). Since then I went rather deep disabling that feature, but I never trusted it.

What I don't understand is why browsers (in my case Brave) doesn't pause all playback after a restart?

Re: MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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post #33

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I have never heard of anyone with this issue. The only explanation is that you restarted whilst having the "Open All Previous Application" checkbox enabled. And yes it will launch processes after you have logged in but before the Desktop is shown. Either that you or you have some launch daemon that is opening a browser.

I also have this issue from time to time. > The only explanation is that [...] Please show some more imagination.

Maybe you should use your imagination and read the second part of what I wrote.

Which is that it could be a launch daemon. It's very common for third party apps to use their imagination and do dumb things on startup.

Re: MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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post #31

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The differences between governments and megacorps are dwindling and the two are becoming much more alike one another. We already live in global technofeudalism.

Alas, no. By and large, governments are still vastly less competent than multinational corporations. MNCs also don't force you to pay taxes or buy their products.

You are "forced to pay taxes" to have schools and roads and rescue services and law and everything else that makes the United States still a mostly habitable place to live.

Corporations do not force you to pay taxes YET. When the corporations get in total control and you cannot even vote just wait to see what a slave you are.

Re: MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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post #31

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The differences between governments and megacorps are dwindling and the two are becoming much more alike one another. We already live in global technofeudalism.

Alas, no. By and large, governments are still vastly less competent than multinational corporations. MNCs also don't force you to pay taxes or buy their products.

> MNCs also don't force you to pay taxes or buy their products.

MNCs are like local governments levying property taxes.

e.g. you need a phone much like you have to live somewhere. Your "Tech Government" is determined by a highly constrained choice like your local civil government is determined by your zip code. Maybe you can move at great disruption and cost but it's only to the jurisdiction of another government and some variation of autocratic laws and taxes.

However, you have no vote and there is no pretence at serving your interests. You are not a citizen but cattle to be farmed... just maximal exploitation to please the mighty Mammon.

Re: MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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> In this scenario the macOS firewall does not seem to function correctly and is disregarding firewall rules ... Some examples of apps that do this are Apple’s own apps and services since macOS 14.6, up until a recent 15.1 beta.

This is not new - every time I update macOS, some of the system settings are changed to default including some in the firewall. And I have to painstakingly go through all of it and change it. Also, the few times I've reinstalled or updated macOS, I've always noticed that it takes longer for the installation if your system has access to the internet - so now I've made it a practice to switch of the router while installing or updating macOS or ios. (With all the AI bullshit being integrated everywhere in Windows, macOS and Android etc., I expect this kind of "offloading" of personal data, and downloading of data, to / from AI servers to keep increasing, especially during updates, to "prepare" for the new AI features in the newer OS updates. No internet means the installer is forced to skip it for later, saving you some valuable time, and hopefully you get to change the default setting before it starts up again. Whatever the claims of AI processing done on the Mac or iDevices itself, some "offloading" to their servers, will still happen, especially if the default settings - which you can change only after the OS is installed - also enables analytics and data collection.)

(More here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26418809 and on this thread - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26303946 ).

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