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Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

#61

I wish it was feasible to have alternative mobile systems, but it's not really. You can't simply give up every popular app for a system nobody else uses or develops for. Sailfish has Android emulation, but good luck running banking apps without Google SafetyNet. Even pure Android ROMs, like LineageOS, can't do that. Also good luck with proprietary firmware for mobile networking and cameras. Another thing that usually…

>SafetyNet

PlayIntegrityFix I hear

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

#62
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Usually the first party supported Sony xperia devices should all work well with all the bells and whistles of sailfish (their Android app support, some proprietary sync functionality) If you have an old Motorola, OnePlus, older Xiaomi Devices - you can get the community ported Sailfish OS. That won't have their Android app support, but there are other options to get that working.

What are the other options to get Android app support?

There's waydroid:

https://github.com/sailfishos-open/waydroid

There were also rpms of Alien Dalvik (the official Android app runner on paid Sailfish devices) that you can install. But that's kind of piracy.

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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What are the other options to get Android app support?

There's waydroid: https://github.com/sailfishos-open/waydroid There were also rpms of Alien Dalvik (the official Android app runner on paid Sailfish devices) that you can install. But that's kind of piracy.

So they are using waydroid... nice! Use this myself a lot on Linux-based tablets/computers, like the Legion GO.

Wonder how well this integrates with the (edit: Sailfish) OS. Unfortunately, this also does not do screenlocks and therefore has security restrictions and certain apps refuse to work properly.

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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Not great, not terrible. The android support is hit and miss and the official store is mostly full of junk. Their SDK is rudimentary and there is close to no documentation. After they signed a deal with the russian state I gave up on them. I am on Plasma now which has an overall better experience.

Do you use Plasma on a phone or tablet? If phone, can you say which hardware platform and how "well" it works as an actual phone, making calls, texting, etc?

The basics of making phone calls, texting etc .. all work well on most of the devices - official/community supported.

Older one plus devices, Motorola devices. The guy who ports to some Motorola phones simply doesn't give up and keeps maintaining his ports up to date.

Here's the status of various devices:

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

#65
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I've used it for several years and the feedback from a user point of view is not positive. My sample size includes me and several members of my family who used Sony Xperia devices running SailfishOS for several years. The Sailfish guys for some odd reason decide to invent their own "user interactions" where you click-slide ("one handed") to do certain opertaions. This makes the UI not only awkward, but NOT intuitive.…

Funny, I used the Nokia N9 back in the days and the UI of (what was called Meego back the IIRC) was head and shoulders above everyone else. I believe the they were the first to have general gesture navigation so your comment about reinventing the UI is somewhat off the mark. Android implemented things after them, it's sort of like the argument that unix terminals should adopted ctrl-C for copy because it's the "stand…

Tbh N9 is still way ahead than today's Android experience imo.

It's also more consistent gestures experience than sailfish. Here you know the gestures are basically for "window/app management". Everything else - they look like regular Android apps.

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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Na thanks no closed source "near scam" OS/Company for me.

Well, I think you ought to write more than that... Enlighten us!

I think he's talking about how they(?) market it as open alternative to Android but most of the UI and apps were proprietary.

Some people also don't like it that they had some deal with the Russian Government.

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

#67

Did something happen that made Sailfish relevant again? Surprised to see it on the front page today. It's unfortunate that they're taking a closed source model when others like System76 and Librem are using their hardware sales to fund open source development. There's also webOS, which was originally funded by Palm and doesn't seem to have any open source development any longer, and the Maui project which is basicall…

WebOS/Lune OS recently made a release in February no? Apparently they rebased themselves on top of LG's WebOS OSE. Rebase - being loosely used.

I think the Librem 5's adaptation of Gnome looks like a decent touch friendly Linux OS these days. Haven't touched it in a while though.

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

#68

By far the best mobile OS, way better than iOS or Android (simpler and more consistent). The biggest obstacle to greater adoption is the lack of availability outside of the EU; of course, this is easy to work around... It has a 'killer feature': Android App Support ( https://jolla.com/appsupport ), which enables a SFOS device to run Android apps in a sandbox. I would also love to see a carefully engineered photo app.…

Is there any reason it would not work in the USA, assuming an unlocked compatible phone?

Assuming a compatible phone and a compatible carrier (AFAIK AT&T and Verizon both still operate white lists), no there's nothing stopping you. There are/were US users who bought Sailfish over VPN. But for official hardware at least, "compatible phone" is the sticking point. The last phone with a North American variant was the Sony XA2 from early 2018. Today it's a brick because Jolla never gave it VoLTE support.

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

#69
Does it have a Desktop mode like Samsung, tbh I don't even get the point of a Linux phone without a desktop mode.

Is this even a proper Linux phone? What distribution is it?

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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post #63

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There's waydroid: https://github.com/sailfishos-open/waydroid There were also rpms of Alien Dalvik (the official Android app runner on paid Sailfish devices) that you can install. But that's kind of piracy.

So they are using waydroid... nice! Use this myself a lot on Linux-based tablets/computers, like the Legion GO. Wonder how well this integrates with the (edit: Sailfish) OS. Unfortunately, this also does not do screenlocks and therefore has security restrictions and certain apps refuse to work properly.

The good thing is waydroid is fully open source. So you can add OS integrations yourself too. It's not too difficult imo.
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