Dead Internet (2023) • Hacker News Board

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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Post by obloid » Tue, Oct 01, 2024, 4:40 PM UTC

alecco wrote: post #14

obloid wrote: post #4

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Any in particular that you recommend?

Please don't. The few good forums still out there need to be protected from Eternal September. This is why a lot of people moved to things like closed Discord servers. Or some pages looking ugly and abandoned running some weird PHP forum software.

I doubt simply mentioning a forum on HN is going to lead to an influx of "noobs" who will descend upon them en masse. Those people are too wrapped up in their world of tiktok, Instagram, YouTube, etc.

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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Post by larsrc » Tue, Oct 01, 2024, 4:49 PM UTC

Yes, yes, you have a large vocabulary and a lawn to chase them kids off of, good on you. In the meanwhile, I hang out on Reddit, Thingiverse, a diversity of wikis, and learn lots of interesting and curious things from YouTube videos. The internet is, and has always been, what you make of it.

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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Post by renegat0x0 » Tue, Oct 01, 2024, 5:41 PM UTC

Complains about monetisation... and end with tip jar. Oh the irony

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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Post by gnulinux » Tue, Oct 01, 2024, 6:14 PM UTC

soulofmischief wrote: post #11

gnulinux wrote: post #5

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> However, by now I think we've found our places where the internet is still fun. There's still some forums and chat rooms that keep things interesting without the constant barrage of advertising. I haven't. Internet is nothing more than an addiction for me. Internet is dead and misanthropic nowadays. It's soulless and corporate. It used to be fun, artistic, creative, and educational. Now it's neither of those, with…

What are some places you miss which you feel allowed you to be creative or learn without advancing some corporate agenda?

Random one off forums. They were alive.

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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Post by opala » Tue, Oct 01, 2024, 7:34 PM UTC

spacemadness wrote: post #50

ixtli wrote: post #10

people have been saying this since we first migrated away from listserv. look, the corporate influence on the internet has absolutely made it worse and continues to make it less accessible to humans but the authors overarching world view is leaking in here. its not the "woke mind virus" its profit motive pure and simple. the dead internet theory is often best viewed through platforms owned and operated by people who…

The author also completely lost me with their anti-woke fixation: “Transfixed, I sat watching the almost hypnotic rumblings of a transgender alt-right, conservative, Republican who was anti-trans rights. It was immaterial whether I agreed with them or not—the simple fact of knowing such outright interesting, transgressive voices even existed” Outright interesting, transgressive voices. Lol. So outright interesting be…

It sounds like he stumbled across Blaire White, whose views really do stand out as an oddity amongst both the conservatives and the trans-identifying. I can see why the author found this interesting.

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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Post by ixtli » Wed, Oct 02, 2024, 2:13 PM UTC

spacemadness wrote: post #50

ixtli wrote: post #10

people have been saying this since we first migrated away from listserv. look, the corporate influence on the internet has absolutely made it worse and continues to make it less accessible to humans but the authors overarching world view is leaking in here. its not the "woke mind virus" its profit motive pure and simple. the dead internet theory is often best viewed through platforms owned and operated by people who…

The author also completely lost me with their anti-woke fixation: “Transfixed, I sat watching the almost hypnotic rumblings of a transgender alt-right, conservative, Republican who was anti-trans rights. It was immaterial whether I agreed with them or not—the simple fact of knowing such outright interesting, transgressive voices even existed” Outright interesting, transgressive voices. Lol. So outright interesting be…

I absolutely agree with you on this. I definitely feel like the viewpoint is forced on me on all social media and all media with a social component (like youtube!)

To digress a bit about your last sentence: my opinion, though, is that they don't find it refreshing.

I think this is an example of the subtle manipulations of language people who are knowingly reactionary do all the time. Like many, they have an Agenda and they want to get it done, but since they know that they often can not openly discuss what they want the world around them to look like in plain terms they start to adopt the cover of things like "free speech" and "transgressive voices."