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Does “building in public” work?

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Re: Does “building in public” work?

#61
I was very skeptical when I saw this headline, but you got me to click! So, good clickbait?

I love the discussion. I think you may just have self-biased your Twitter feed, and so to you it looks like the world is building in public, but to 99% of the population it's very rare.

Loved the discussion though, and your portfolio and blog are great.

Here's my user test: https://news.pub/?try=https://www.youtube.com/embed/10SIY3jE...

Re: Does “building in public” work?

#62
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If no one will pay for the solution, the problem might not be that important.

Well, that pretty much rules out email, maps/navigation, messaging, and quite a bit more. Somehow, this suggests that perhaps your rubric needs amending.

People happily pay for every one of those things.

Fastmail, Garmin, Slack etc. WhatsApp had a paid model until Facebook bought it.

Re: Does “building in public” work?

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post #48
post #8

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If no one will pay for the solution, the problem might not be that important.

Lots of people won't pay for journalism anymore. You'd have a hard time convincing me (or most other people on here) that journalism is no longer important.

Lots of people won't pay for something they can otherwise get for free, even if the free option is mediocre.

This does not mean that journalism isn't valuable enough to some people. It just means that the market for journalism shrank.

Re: Does “building in public” work?

#64

I really dislike that so much of hacker culture is $$ focused now. 1. Being a hacker means walking the world being constantly dissatisfied by all of the inefficiency you see on a daily basis and wanting to fix it. 2. Being a hacker means feeling like most of the software world is fraudulent and you are going to build a solution that actually works. 3. Being a hacker means building something because it is fun or cool.…

> I really dislike that so much of hacker culture is $$ focused now. I don’t think that’s hacker culture. It’s just the mainstream adoption of hacker culture, don’t let it replace the real thing in your mind. When lots and lots of people started playing candy crush on phones, it wasn’t gamer culture that changed, just the public perception of gaming. There are still people out there who conform to the description you…

Thank you for sharing that, it’s awesome to see so many of us still around!

(Not trying to gatekeep—anyone can be a hacker, no matter when they start. Just sharing some fun memories—I still remember upgrading from a 386 to a 486, then to a Pentium 133. Or the LAN parties. Or when IRC splits let you take over a popular channel for a while! Fun times! The new tools being built today, especially around AI, are just as exciting and remind me of the early days of the internet. There's so much more to create!)

Re: Does “building in public” work?

#65

I really dislike that so much of hacker culture is $$ focused now. 1. Being a hacker means walking the world being constantly dissatisfied by all of the inefficiency you see on a daily basis and wanting to fix it. 2. Being a hacker means feeling like most of the software world is fraudulent and you are going to build a solution that actually works. 3. Being a hacker means building something because it is fun or cool.…

> Would you still build that app, because it solves an annoying real world problem even if you got paid $0?

Assuming you’re talking about building an app for other people, I personally would not, no. The market is sending a clear signal that it values the app at zero dollars. In other words, they don’t want it.

> If not then the problem you are solving is probably not important and a waste of your time anyway.

This is exactly the question that charging money answers: Do people just say they want your app or are they willing to “put their money where their mouth is” and actually buy it?

(Also note that not all things are paid for with money. Some are paid for with time or attention, so adjust for that if necessary.)

Re: Does “building in public” work?

#66
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You’re saying they’re no true Scotsmen. They’re entrepreneurs who don’t really care what you call them. Of course people will try to make money, not everyone can afford to (or is willing to) maintain whole side projects for fun. Some people have side projects unrelated to their main line of work.

You misunderstand me. If you solve valuable problems you will make money. If you have a side project then spend all your time solving valuable problems not posting about $$

Making money doesn’t necessarily imply value is being created. For example casinos create the illusion of value and generate a lot of money.

Unfortunately, like a casino a lot of tech is an illusion, e.g. social media- you walk in and it’s flashy and exciting, but you walk out having lost hours of your time and possibly a few brain cells.

Re: Does “building in public” work?

#67
>it seems people are more willing to post about their achievements, rather than ideas and plans about their products.

Other people can steal your plans and ideas, they can't steal your revenue.

Also, rather than declaring that other people should rethink what they are doing, maybe just reconsider your choice to be involved in it.

Full "build in public" isn't for me, if it matters.

Re: Does “building in public” work?

#68

I really dislike that so much of hacker culture is $$ focused now. 1. Being a hacker means walking the world being constantly dissatisfied by all of the inefficiency you see on a daily basis and wanting to fix it. 2. Being a hacker means feeling like most of the software world is fraudulent and you are going to build a solution that actually works. 3. Being a hacker means building something because it is fun or cool.…

Sir, this is a hacker news not VC news.

That's why I think parent's comment is kind of funny. This site is VC news. If you're looking for actual hacker culture, this ain't it. This website is mostly VC devs, not hackers.

Re: Does “building in public” work?

#69

I really dislike that so much of hacker culture is $$ focused now. 1. Being a hacker means walking the world being constantly dissatisfied by all of the inefficiency you see on a daily basis and wanting to fix it. 2. Being a hacker means feeling like most of the software world is fraudulent and you are going to build a solution that actually works. 3. Being a hacker means building something because it is fun or cool.…

I think it's less about money and more about the endless access to metrics and analytics which will impact how you feel about your project. A forum of maybe a few dozen people you somewhat know loving something 20 years ago would have sufficed but now it all tends towards vague bigger numbers of people you have minimal knowledge of to feel at all good about the effort put in. In lieu of 10,000 likes, which might ultimately feel hollow anyway, making a couple hundred dollars will probably suffice.

I made a super niche modding tool a few weeks ago; it's got one star on GitHub but the two nerds that have actually used it are delighted with it and I'm very happy about that. The notion another few in the future will find it is oddly nice to think about

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