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Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by tromp »

realo wrote: post #40
technics256 wrote: post #13

A second day! I can't believe the full up and down owning of the communications supply chain. Makes Hezbollah look like a clown show.

Thousands of civilians injured... very few Hezbollah dead. Makes Israel look like a terrorist organization, IMHO.

Israel's bombing of Gaza made them look like a terrorist organization. I believe the majority of deaths and a significant fraction of injured in this attack are in fact Hezbollah members.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by kotaKat »

At this point someone needs to run an SDR and start capturing as much RF spectrum as possible, especially on any communications device that has a 'selective calling' feature.

The pagers could have been set off with a page sent to a 'group' capcode in a hidden slot with a unique beep pattern that a little tiny MCU picked up and set off the detonator.

Radios -- same thing. Possibly a group calling feature of a signalling system was used with a "secret" group hidden away in the radio programming?

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by fwip »

leoqa wrote: post #41
miohtama wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know HN is not a place for political commentary, but why Israel would do it now when everyone tries to make them de-escalate?

Israel is in their 9/11 moment and is not backing down due to international hand wringing. Ultimately it’s a test of the international institutions and US government support.

At this point, I wonder if Israel isn't intentionally trying to provoke more 9/11 moments. If they lose the direct support of the US or the tolerance of the wider international community, they can't fulfill their goals.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by morwanger »

blackhawkC17 wrote: post #35
tecleandor wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The death toll rose to 12, including two children, Lebanese Health Minister Firass Abiad said on Wednesday. Tuesday's attack wounded nearly 3,000 people, including many of the militant group's fighters and Iran's envoy to Beirut. The cost and years in the making of this through a shell company in Hungary, and also putting a random (and probably innocent) Taiwanese company in the target, for just killing 12 people i…

Killing is not the point. It’s to feed raw terror to terrorists, giving them a nice taste of their own medicine.

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by klez »

golergka wrote: post #52
datameta wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That last paragraph is disingenuous at best because there is a miles-wide valley of options between setting off explosives in peoples' pockets and surrender.

No, this paragraph explains that "this attack killed innocent" is not a good argument if you want to prove that this was a war crime or an act of terror. If you want to prove something like this, your argument should be "this attack targeted innocents", "reasonable precautions to minimise damage to innocents were not taken", or "the military significance of target is insignificant compared to damage to innocents". I…

> "reasonable precautions to minimise damage to innocents were not taken"

I'd say this particular line has been crossed the moment you make something explode without knowing who exactly is holding it and where they are.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by ngcazz »

realo wrote: post #40
technics256 wrote: post #13

A second day! I can't believe the full up and down owning of the communications supply chain. Makes Hezbollah look like a clown show.

Thousands of civilians injured... very few Hezbollah dead. Makes Israel look like a terrorist organization, IMHO.

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by tptacek »

clueless wrote: post #66

so how does one verify that the battery in their iphone doesn't contain explosives?

The supply chain for an iPhone is much stronger than for a Gold Alpha pager, and it's likely that the same thing will end up being true of these ICOM radios: they'll turn out to be designed and branded by ICOM, but actually manufactured and distributed by some random Eastern European outfit that paid to use ICOM as a skinsuit. That would never happen with an Apple device.
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