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Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by gerdesj »

"From now on, I will assume you have created an unprivileged user to run yay."

Was this written by a human?

Jumping from a cut down step by step para-phrasing from the official manual to yay is a big step. If it was written by a human, then leave a ### TODO in the text to show its a work in progress or incomplete.

"CUTEBOLLOCKS (this will not translate well!), CUTEBOLLOCKS (this will not translate well!)"

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I'd better explain the above: There's a UK TV programme called "8 out of 10 cats does Countdown". Prior to advert. breaks an anagram with a clue is presented to viewers (and they are specified twice), the anagram itself is generally rude. ---

"Cute bollocks" is one way that I think of the original post - they have taken the Arch install manual and ripped most of the useful bits out and created a narrowly focused synopsis. They have been "cute" - link on HN, with engagement. Bollocks - that's my considered review of the quality of their article.

We've all got better things to do than engaging with wankery. Please stop.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by marcus0x62 »

freeqaz wrote: post #21

Nit picking a bit but I prefer btrfs even if it's slower. Easier to work with. What bootloader is this using? Or is it just straight EFI booting? I helped write a guide a few years back that still is what I do using systemd-boot. https://github.com/lunasec-io/lunasec/blob/master/docs/blog/... How is Wayland support these days? I love i3 but I know Sway promises to be close enough.

> How is Wayland support these days? I love i3 but I know Sway promises to be close enough.

I think it depends on what you mean by “Wayland”, but I’m an Arch/Sway user with AMD hardware on my desktop and Apple silicon on my laptop, and Sway performance/stability is great on both, with the caveat that my laptop is now running the Asahi Fedora remix instead of Arch, since the Asahi team killed the Arch port off a while back.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by m463 »

gerdesj wrote: post #61

"From now on, I will assume you have created an unprivileged user to run yay." Was this written by a human? Jumping from a cut down step by step para-phrasing from the official manual to yay is a big step. If it was written by a human, then leave a ### TODO in the text to show its a work in progress or incomplete. "CUTEBOLLOCKS (this will not translate well!), CUTEBOLLOCKS (this will not translate well!)" --- I'd bet…

Follow the link just before using yay, where he explains makepkg, yay and an unprivileged user.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

#64

Post by nxicvyvy »

neilv wrote: post #40
Levitating wrote: post #23

These types of posts are often more harfmul than helpful. ArchLinux already has proper installation instructions and those who cannot follow them aren't recommend to run it. The main installation issues the ArchLinux forum sees is from people following outdated third party installation guides.

I think the post title is understated, since I had a related thought: it's not hard to install most Linux distros on a laptop, and this post will intimidate people. This post is about how one person did it on hard mode, to get it just how they want it. That's fine. I suspect that most of the people on HN could pretty easily install Debian, without documentation (just write this file raw to a USB flash drive, boot the…

That's just a normal arch install, no hard mode about it.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by m463 »

nmstoker wrote: post #59

I know SteamOS uses an immutable file system over a custom Arch install. Have any people here tried this kind of thing with immutable file systems on Arch and is there a realistic benefit?

Arch is pretty much the opposite of immutable.

An immutable filesystem sort of implies a specific collection of packages chosen by someone else and combined in a monolithic release. Everyone gets the same OS, and overlays their data on top of it.

Arch contains the specific packages you have chosen, and they are all updated asynchronously using a rolling release system.

Not that you couldn't have a read-only os partition and a user overlay partition. With pacman it wouldn't really match the philosophy of immmutable.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by freeqaz »

marcus0x62 wrote: post #62
freeqaz wrote: post #21

Nit picking a bit but I prefer btrfs even if it's slower. Easier to work with. What bootloader is this using? Or is it just straight EFI booting? I helped write a guide a few years back that still is what I do using systemd-boot. https://github.com/lunasec-io/lunasec/blob/master/docs/blog/... How is Wayland support these days? I love i3 but I know Sway promises to be close enough.

> How is Wayland support these days? I love i3 but I know Sway promises to be close enough. I think it depends on what you mean by “Wayland”, but I’m an Arch/Sway user with AMD hardware on my desktop and Apple silicon on my laptop, and Sway performance/stability is great on both, with the caveat that my laptop is now running the Asahi Fedora remix instead of Arch, since the Asahi team killed the Arch port off a while…

How's Asahi these days? Stable enough to run as a daily?

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by big-green-man »

elromulous wrote: post #4

This was the process I followed: 1. Downloaded EndeavourOS 2. Installed it as easily as Ubuntu Edit: the arch documentation is second to none

Same here. I used to do the arch manual install thing, but after a few times doing it, it's just easier to run a script to do it for you. I could write one, or I could just install EndeavorOS, so that's what I do. I used Manjaro before, but they've had some sketchy happenings to say the least, and something breaks a little too often for me. EndeavorOS is fantastic.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by nilamo »

elcapitan wrote: post #5

What's everybody's favorite distribution on the Frame.Work 13? Getting it next week, and toying around with Arch/Debian/Ubuntu/Suse/NixOS/etc in VMs while waiting for it. I think I'll have to throw a coin (or just take Debian).

I've been using Arch+hyperland on a framework 13, and it's been pretty good. Screen sharing seems to be the only thing that acts up now and then.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by rirze »

elcapitan wrote: post #5

What's everybody's favorite distribution on the Frame.Work 13? Getting it next week, and toying around with Arch/Debian/Ubuntu/Suse/NixOS/etc in VMs while waiting for it. I think I'll have to throw a coin (or just take Debian).

Haven't used a Framework, but I'll throw arch-based CachyOS. Super simple setup and optimized binaries for modern machines are a plus.
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