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I do not think their audience is in fact mostly math nerds.
They hire more Math PhD's than the entire economy combined. If comparable had happened in any other field, to any other adversary, that very fact would not be as advertised.
Does "the entire economy" include quantitative trading firms/hedge funds and alike? Feel like they'd probably be able to snap up quite a few.
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They hire more Math PhD's than the entire economy combined. If comparable had happened in any other field, to any other adversary, that very fact would not be as advertised.
> They hire more Math PhD's than the entire economy combined. Does "the entire economy" include quantitative trading firms/hedge funds and alike? Feel like they'd probably be able to snap up quite a few.
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“They hire more math people then anyone” and “they mostly don’t hire math people” aren’t logically inconsistent. And the former is similarly not evidence that they mostly hire people with edu emails.
It is. PhD's in Math are very rare, and uneconomic. Aside from Wall Street and Langley, no one outside of SV Talent recruits are paying for someone who has spent their prime thinking years considering the viability of certain types of "up-my-sleeve" numbers - no one else has that capital for specialty, almost certainly fruitlessly, since infosec advantage isn't sum-net-zero. Any APT that will pay will have a slight a…
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It is. PhD's in Math are very rare, and uneconomic. Aside from Wall Street and Langley, no one outside of SV Talent recruits are paying for someone who has spent their prime thinking years considering the viability of certain types of "up-my-sleeve" numbers - no one else has that capital for specialty, almost certainly fruitlessly, since infosec advantage isn't sum-net-zero. Any APT that will pay will have a slight a…
PhDs in math are not in fact rare, and having attended numerous cryptography conferences I can assure you they're a lot more socially normal that computer nerds in general are.
You are comparing those who speak a language very few can fathom to a magnitude more, less specialized, more general base, which in itself, is a superset of math nerds.
Almost all math nerds are "computer nerds" to the-non STEM type.
Control for proper prevalence and youll find your circle is much smaller than you wish you would believe.
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PhDs in math are not in fact rare, and having attended numerous cryptography conferences I can assure you they're a lot more socially normal that computer nerds in general are.
The irony being that your mathy conferences didn't mention the observational bias of conferences themselves filtering towards "socially normal people" than "computer nerds in general" You are comparing those who speak a language very few can fathom to a magnitude more, less specialized, more general base, which in itself, is a superset of math nerds. Almost all math nerds are "computer nerds" to the-non STEM type. Co…
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Just because it's a computer security challenge doesn't mean you should start breaking into the website before the challenge begins. That's akin to suggesting that boxers who were deemed not to qualify for a competition should punching the referee to prove otherwise; what's normal inside the sport can be entirely unacceptable outside it.
If you don't have a family, the Air Force won't let you fly a plane. You think being Omni-potent in a modern world wouldn't bring its own shade of problems? It's more akin to the boxers who were deemed not to qualify cuz their deemed arbitrarily too old remind the judges of their youth, all in good fun. If you cannot get access to an @edu email for long enough to verify a 2FA between Facebook familiarity and now, you…
Can you cite a source for this? I'm acquainted with some USAF people and have close friends with fighter pilot siblings (I know, family) and I have never heard this before. If by "family" you mean "a spouse", the people going up in trainers are too young to have built families, so that can't possibly be a DQ.
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If you don't have a family, the Air Force won't let you fly a plane. You think being Omni-potent in a modern world wouldn't bring its own shade of problems? It's more akin to the boxers who were deemed not to qualify cuz their deemed arbitrarily too old remind the judges of their youth, all in good fun. If you cannot get access to an @edu email for long enough to verify a 2FA between Facebook familiarity and now, you…
If you don't have a family, the Air Force won't let you fly a plane. Can you cite a source for this? I'm acquainted with some USAF people and have close friends with fighter pilot siblings (I know, family) and I have never heard this before. If by "family" you mean "a spouse", the people going up in trainers are too young to have built families, so that can't possibly be a DQ.
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If you don't have a family, the Air Force won't let you fly a plane. Can you cite a source for this? I'm acquainted with some USAF people and have close friends with fighter pilot siblings (I know, family) and I have never heard this before. If by "family" you mean "a spouse", the people going up in trainers are too young to have built families, so that can't possibly be a DQ.
They can't because it's not true.
In fairness: so too does the claim that this is a test of whether you can hack a .edu email address, like it's 1994 and the next test in their CTF is whether you can find an X.25 outdial. No, they're just recruiting from engineering schools, like everyone else!
Career tip: if hoping for a GG-whatever role at NSA, recommend not committing crimes in the process of trying to impress them. They are a lot more boring than you think they are.
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“They hire more math people then anyone” and “they mostly don’t hire math people” aren’t logically inconsistent. And the former is similarly not evidence that they mostly hire people with edu emails.
It is. PhD's in Math are very rare, and uneconomic. Aside from Wall Street and Langley, no one outside of SV Talent recruits are paying for someone who has spent their prime thinking years considering the viability of certain types of "up-my-sleeve" numbers - no one else has that capital for specialty, almost certainly fruitlessly, since infosec advantage isn't sum-net-zero. Any APT that will pay will have a slight a…
Even if they hired the sum graduating phd class of every math program in the country it wouldn’t change the fact that math phds are not their hiring target.
They have to hire N non-math phds for every M math phd they hire to support their hiring metrics. Like every other large technical bureaucracy in the world.
None of that has anything to do with advanced capabilities and, again like every other technocracy, has to do with management and ops.