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Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by bossyTeacher »

daft_pink wrote: post #31

I love Kagi and I’m a paid user, but I’m not willing to pay $25 per month for the assistants for the following reasons: * I already pay these companies directly and wouldn’t be able to cancel these as I use the voice assistant on my phone from ChatGPT and love using the artifacts from Claude on my computer * I’m also paying raycast to access these at the touch of my keyboard and prefer to quick access use it there I…

Can you explain to me why Kagi is so good? I don't use Google Search so don't try the privacy card on me

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by freedomben »

unshavedyak wrote: post #50
dubme1 wrote: post #45

Paid Kagi user here. I REALLY wish Kagi would focus on it's core selling point: search. Building a search engine is hard enough. I use Kagi Search everyday and I am mostly happy with it but the product has a lot of room for improvment. Stop launching new products (browser, summarizer, gpt, assistant) while your core product is still behind the competition in many areas.

Paid Kagi user here. I love the AI additions, because to me it's an alternate interface to the core selling point: search. Whether or not Kagi can achieve more than the "search alone is hard enough" point however is fair - though i've been happy so far.

Same. I love the AI additions and I think they've introduced them very thoughtfully.

To me, the best part of the AI additions is that it can (almost instantaneously) summarize information from the several top hits of a search. This is subtly but importantly different from having the LLM spit out an answer based on it's knowledge base, and also is able to quickly and easily cite it's sources! Extremely useful to me.

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by teractiveodular »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #61
daft_pink wrote: post #31

I love Kagi and I’m a paid user, but I’m not willing to pay $25 per month for the assistants for the following reasons: * I already pay these companies directly and wouldn’t be able to cancel these as I use the voice assistant on my phone from ChatGPT and love using the artifacts from Claude on my computer * I’m also paying raycast to access these at the touch of my keyboard and prefer to quick access use it there I…

Can you explain to me why Kagi is so good? I don't use Google Search so don't try the privacy card on me

Search results are ranked by what's best, not which advertiser pays the most. And unlike DDG, the quality of the results is actually great.

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by freedomben »

daft_pink wrote: post #31

I love Kagi and I’m a paid user, but I’m not willing to pay $25 per month for the assistants for the following reasons: * I already pay these companies directly and wouldn’t be able to cancel these as I use the voice assistant on my phone from ChatGPT and love using the artifacts from Claude on my computer * I’m also paying raycast to access these at the touch of my keyboard and prefer to quick access use it there I…

IMHO if you pay for them directly already, then probably not worth it. I cancelled Ultimate because it just wasn't feature competitive to me over OpenWebUI, but if you want to be able to try out several different models from different companies without giving each of them a card and using a different interface, Kagi Assistant could be a good solution.

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by barbazoo »

dubme1 wrote: post #45

Paid Kagi user here. I REALLY wish Kagi would focus on it's core selling point: search. Building a search engine is hard enough. I use Kagi Search everyday and I am mostly happy with it but the product has a lot of room for improvment. Stop launching new products (browser, summarizer, gpt, assistant) while your core product is still behind the competition in many areas.

To me it seems like that's what they're doing here. I don't see right away how this is not their core business.

> Kagi Assistant has the ability to use Kagi Search to source the highest quality information meaning that its responses are grounded in the most up-to-date factual information while disregarding most “spam” and “made for advertising” sites with our unique ranking algorithm and user search personalizations on top.

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by freedomben »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #61
daft_pink wrote: post #31

I love Kagi and I’m a paid user, but I’m not willing to pay $25 per month for the assistants for the following reasons: * I already pay these companies directly and wouldn’t be able to cancel these as I use the voice assistant on my phone from ChatGPT and love using the artifacts from Claude on my computer * I’m also paying raycast to access these at the touch of my keyboard and prefer to quick access use it there I…

Can you explain to me why Kagi is so good? I don't use Google Search so don't try the privacy card on me

I love being able to uprank, downrank, pin or blacklist specific domains/sites for my personal results. That alone makes it worth it. I also find the search results to be as good or better than Google. Once my personal ranking kicks in it's not even close.

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by drdaeman »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #61
daft_pink wrote: post #31

I love Kagi and I’m a paid user, but I’m not willing to pay $25 per month for the assistants for the following reasons: * I already pay these companies directly and wouldn’t be able to cancel these as I use the voice assistant on my phone from ChatGPT and love using the artifacts from Claude on my computer * I’m also paying raycast to access these at the touch of my keyboard and prefer to quick access use it there I…

Can you explain to me why Kagi is so good? I don't use Google Search so don't try the privacy card on me

It does its job: provides web results relevant to the query. At the moment it has acceptable signal-to-noise ratio (quality varies per-query, but it has higher chances of useful links than web spam), which is why people tend to say it's good.

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by ziddoap »

teractiveodular wrote: post #63
bossyTeacher wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain to me why Kagi is so good? I don't use Google Search so don't try the privacy card on me

Search results are ranked by what's best, not which advertiser pays the most. And unlike DDG, the quality of the results is actually great.

>And unlike DDG, the quality of the results is actually great.

Any chance you can expand on this?

I've used DDG for years and find the results great, but maybe we just query for different things. Is there any specific topics that you find DDG is bad at but Kagi is good at?

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by exe34 »

chankstein38 wrote: post #27
bun_terminator wrote: post #23

c-f "ai"; c-w. and onto the pile they go! Is it still legal do do something with a computer without involving "ai"?

agreed. I'm getting pretty sick of AI summaries that will fully lie to me about things. Google's search summary AI is awful I'd expect Kagi's to be similar.

does Google ai summary lie? do you have examples?

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by freedomben »

lilyball wrote: post #59
hollowturtle wrote: post #46

What’s the incentive for websites to let Kagi and others indexing content if llms in search show relevant informations right away? Wouldn’t something like perplexity ai making more sense then? Or perhaps better application of llms to search

I haven't used Kagi's Quick Answer very often yet, but when I do, it always cites its sources and I often end up clicking into at least one of the sources to look for more detail or context.

Bingo. I nearly always use the quick answer, and then will use the cited sources to click onto the page to either read more or verify that the summary was accurate (and it always has been in the 300+ times I've used it).
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