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Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

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Re: Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

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Sorry I don't get: how is possible to find anybody defending Musk when the Supreme Court of a democracy ruled to exclude X from the country ? Free speech is a good thing AS LONG AS it respect the country laws. In France, the People decided democratically (through their elected representatives) against some kinds of so-called "free speech" (for example: racism apology). That's OUR choice, on OUR territory (like it or…

The judge is violating the constitution of his own country and engaging in censorship of political opponents.

Is X a bralizian institution ? I don't think so... so X has no right to oppose this decision !

If the judge decision is illegal, that's the problem of the brazilian political and law system, and of the brazilian People. But X is not a brazilian citizen AFAIK... so it either follow the rules, leave the country or is illegal.

Moreover, when Starlink refuse to respect a court order, Starlink is although a problem (be it another Musk property or not)

Re: Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

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It's frightening how authoritarian the Left has become around the world. Ambiguous laws about'hate' seem poised to protect the world from thought crimes by curtailing basic human rights. In this context Musk is right and has the power to bring change. He will lose a lot of that power under a Harris presidency that has advertised it plans to continue the crusade against freedom of speech.

*would lose a lot of that power.

I'm hoping for a different outcome and the world turns in a better direction than forcing "Democrats" to vote for an un-nominated candidate.

Re: Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

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I really don't know what to tell you if you think one of the most practical human inventions in history is frivolous...

Do we need 10000 communication satellites compared to what a terrestrial network can provide? Cellular networks reutilize spectrum much more efficiently than space based systems. I get that there niche applications like rural broadband and military communications. I have no idea if Kessler syndrome is a real possibility but if it is then it doesn't seem worth it.

Yes we desperately do need it. Sure if you are living in your comfy American city you don't see the need. But most places on earth actually don't have a convenient cell tower or terrestrial network. Starlink is much more efficient to cover those areas then manually building out infrastructure there. It's not even a contest.

Re: Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

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He's selective wrt which governments he is giving into, he's not blocking anything himself. Would you rather: He obeys all governments? Obeys no governments?

You asked for examples where he has blocked peoples speech. I provided examples of where he has blocked peoples speech.

Sorry, I was asking in context of OP "The only speech this man wants to be free is his own.", seems like there is no evidence of him bringing this statement into effect, I was looking for such evidence, as in: He blocked someone by himself for himself.

Re: Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

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The only speech this man wants to be free is his own.

Do you have any examples where he blocks other people's speech?

How about this? https://newrepublic.com/post/177936/twitter-suspends-account...

"This is at least the fifth time that X, under Musk, has purged accounts that are the slightest bit critical of him, his friends, or causes he supports"

Re: Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

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As the past two years of Twitter's evolution have shown, more power to Elon Musk actually leads to more censorship. He's running the social media service like a kingdom where lèse-majesté is the gravest offense, promoting himself and blocking any topics that he doesn't personally like (including the existence of his own daughter who posts on Threads now). Old Twitter had flawed content moderation processes, but at le…

In what way does taking X off Brazil decrease the censorship in Brazil?

It certainly makes whatever censorship might be taking place less skewed by Musk's personal whims.

Re: Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

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The judge is violating the constitution of his own country and engaging in censorship of political opponents.

Is X a bralizian institution ? I don't think so... so X has no right to oppose this decision ! If the judge decision is illegal, that's the problem of the brazilian political and law system, and of the brazilian People. But X is not a brazilian citizen AFAIK... so it either follow the rules, leave the country or is illegal. Moreover, when Starlink refuse to respect a court order, Starlink is although a problem (be it…

> Is X a bralizian institution ? I don't think so... so X has no right to oppose this decision !

They have the right because you can appeal to the court. The problem is: it’s the Supreme Court, your appeal would be judged by the same judge.

> If the judge decision is illegal, that's the problem of the brazilian political and law system, and of the brazilian People.

True, but since the Supreme Court is also the only court where politicians can be judged, no one will do anything to stop them.

Re: Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

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Do you have any examples where he blocks other people's speech?

How about this? https://newrepublic.com/post/177936/twitter-suspends-account... "This is at least the fifth time that X, under Musk, has purged accounts that are the slightest bit critical of him, his friends, or causes he supports"

Ok yeah, that's pretty bad indeed.
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