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E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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the main bernefit of eink for me is that battery life is so much better.

That's not as relevant as it used to be though. My android tablet lasts for a week of reading and charges from 30% to 60% in 5 minutes.

At what weight though. Eink devices are super light.

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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It would be nice to see somebody do a device that isn't crippled in terms of hardware and software. In my experience, most hardware companies aren't very good at software and vice versa. Apple seems a rare exception to this rule. I'd love a laptop that I can use outside. Even my current macbook pro isn't that good outside. It kind of works but it's not that comfortable on the eyes. And that's supposed to be a screen…

If we're talking about E ink, it happened to study with a guy who had a boox something and it was really cool, however he mainly used it for notes and for writing, and not for coding. I think they offer a lot of products for various needs, perhaps some of them are backlighted. Boox ultra pro c has an underclocked snapdragon 855 so it shouldn't suck too much, just a little. However, they're not cheap

I use a big boox for sheet music. It works well and supports a rather good app for the purpose (mobile sheets)

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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Uses a XC7Z010 SoC which also contains a FPGA. https://docs.amd.com/v/u/en-US/ds190-Zynq-7000-Overview Searching the board name "EBAZ4205" brings some interesting results. https://github.com/xjtuecho/EBAZ4205 https://theokelo.co.ke/getting-starting-with-ebaz4205-zynq-7... https://github.com/XyleMora/EBAZ4205 https://hackaday.io/project/187351-cheap-35-and-powerful-fpg... http://cholla.mmto.org/ebaz4205/ https://www.e…

now it's 110€ for me, did we splashdot-effect it?

Quite possible in many cases as some sellers monitor well known places for links and raise their prices as soon as there's interest, but it doesn't seem the case here as I still see the same prices. Have you clicked to the actual board? Asking because many prices aren't unrelated to the photo returned by a search and point to either a much cheaper product sold either bundled or alone (a programming cable for example) or a more pricey complete kit. This is what misled me to the €10 initial price because I saw the main board while if memory serves the actual product was a smaller accessory card. By the way, I still see it around €30 plus 3 to 10 shipping on Ebay from several sellers in China. not publishing links for the above reasons.

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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It would be nice to see somebody do a device that isn't crippled in terms of hardware and software. In my experience, most hardware companies aren't very good at software and vice versa. Apple seems a rare exception to this rule. I'd love a laptop that I can use outside. Even my current macbook pro isn't that good outside. It kind of works but it's not that comfortable on the eyes. And that's supposed to be a screen…

> It would be nice to see somebody do a device that isn't crippled in terms of hardware and software. Have a look at PineNote.

It has been sold out since years, and the Pine folks said most probably will never make another batch (they complain that it was their worst selling device ever, and they don't want to make any more before full software support).

I tried to get one since years for fun. The only one that I found that was also shipped to my place was in China, and the seller asked for $1000 (+shipping) for it. I passed. And slowly giving up on buying one.

(Also, with it's RPi3-ish SoC it is not really a laptop replacement)

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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Your best solution right now is the 13 inch Onyx Boox Tab X. Put it in front of your MacBook screen and connect through VNC, or leave the Mac at home. They can't connect through wire. Or wait and see if they release a color version of the same size soon.

I have a color Boox tablet, and I am very very disappointed about the colors. Very hard to distinguish many colors and shades. Black and white though is really good.

I have also seen the color eink tablets, and the colors are so dull that you at first glance can take it for grayscale. Even so, I think colors would be very good to have for work and functional purposes, only to distinguish between colors. Certainly not for enjoying them.

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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the main bernefit of eink for me is that battery life is so much better.

For the main purpose that they are used for, displays that don't need to be updated frequently, like e-reader or "smart" price tag display.

However updating the display is more costly in terms of power than lcd.

We can also factor in that most e-reader also include backlight.

As a caveat, I appreciate e-ink technology, and the innovation that it brought us. I would also love to get my hand on one of those color e-ink android tablet. But I am not hoping to have a huge difference in battery usage from it, e-reader are very specialized device and can afford optimization that more versatile device cannot.

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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post #47

It would be nice to see somebody do a device that isn't crippled in terms of hardware and software. In my experience, most hardware companies aren't very good at software and vice versa. Apple seems a rare exception to this rule. I'd love a laptop that I can use outside. Even my current macbook pro isn't that good outside. It kind of works but it's not that comfortable on the eyes. And that's supposed to be a screen…

This company out of Vancouver Canada is doing some interesting stuff, their V1 device isn't quite what you're looking for, but I'd keep an eye on them, my understanding is what you're looking for is where they are going: https://daylightcomputer.com/

They are explicitly mentioned in the article. Where they are headed is definitely compelling, but to echo so many other comments, it’s just not quite what I want, yet.
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