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UC Berkeley will delete all alumni email accounts with >5GB stored

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Re: UC Berkeley will delete all alumni email accounts with >5GB stored

#61
post #19

I believe the impetus is just Google cancelling the free unlimited storage for education institutions.

It is sad IMO, yours may differ, that educational institutions, once among the pioneers of the internet, are now relying on an advertising company for something as basic as email.

Re: UC Berkeley will delete all alumni email accounts with >5GB stored

#62
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the people who write the SMTP RFCs and teach students how to implement them to have hands-on experience operating a mail system?

This wouldn't be RFC work, this would be sysadmin work. Probably not the worst use of time, but you'd need to find interested students and faculty year-over-year.

Students do worse for less money in the search of internships all time.

Re: UC Berkeley will delete all alumni email accounts with >5GB stored

#64
post #19

I believe the impetus is just Google cancelling the free unlimited storage for education institutions.

It is sad IMO, yours may differ, that educational institutions, once among the pioneers of the internet, are now relying on an advertising company for something as basic as email.

I don't think that's sad at all. When the internet and email were trailblazing technology it was right that the educational institutions were the pioneers. Now they are boring old technology and they can outsource that. Maintaining email systems isn't research and won't lead to many papers.

Re: UC Berkeley will delete all alumni email accounts with >5GB stored

#66

it's clear. nobody needs more than 5GB. they won't exist if they need more and this ensures the statement is true. maybe this is a trend and should be used for all websites. make small data great again?

how about all alumni email addresses just become forward and reverse proxy relays. let me just add a forwarding address, and provide outbound mail.

permanent vanity addresses tied to accomplishments, clubs etc should be a straightforward business or product for google, microsoft, cloudflare etc to offer.

or patch dns to allow the sale of email addresses, and process all forwards (with the forwarding address stored privately) before processing other mx records.

none of that should take up much storage.

Re: UC Berkeley will delete all alumni email accounts with >5GB stored

#67
post #28

I can't think why I'd want to keep an email account from my old university. Is that really a thing?

Oh yes. EDU emails are a hot commodity. And there have been a lot of crack downs lately on who can have them. The number of free and heavily discounted items you can get with them makes them quite valuable.

not all alumni email addresses are .edu.

which actually turns out to be a win, because because they arent tied to the university itself, they can impose a 5gb cap, stop accepting new alumni, and carry on. and a .com is often easier to say over the phone than subdomain.school.edu

Re: UC Berkeley will delete all alumni email accounts with >5GB stored

#68
post #66

it's clear. nobody needs more than 5GB. they won't exist if they need more and this ensures the statement is true. maybe this is a trend and should be used for all websites. make small data great again?

how about all alumni email addresses just become forward and reverse proxy relays. let me just add a forwarding address, and provide outbound mail. permanent vanity addresses tied to accomplishments, clubs etc should be a straightforward business or product for google, microsoft, cloudflare etc to offer. or patch dns to allow the sale of email addresses, and process all forwards (with the forwarding address stored pr…

excellent idea!

Re: UC Berkeley will delete all alumni email accounts with >5GB stored

#69
Well, there are some things, one is that no student at least after the first year should being so incapable to having such large maildirs on an uni provided email service, another is that in the USA it's not like in the EU, students pay, MUCH, so essentially they need to be treated as customers, not wannabe $something in a public service...
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