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Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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The orders of the brazilian court are just too arbitrary, and not just in this case. At some point it ceases to be a judicial court and becomes more of an Emperor's court where the Emperor is making laws as he is going on.

Defying court orders can get you arrested in any country even if you and others deem them to be “too arbitrary”

That was not the point I was making. In any case your point applies to defying the monarch too, which might be more applicable here.

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A quick google search on Mike Benz came up with his recent interview by Tucker Carlson titled "The Deep State's Step-by-Step Plan to End Free Speech".

You know Tucker Carlson is such a big fan of Putin, he was the only western journalist allowed to interview him, which he did. Just listen to the interview, they both just spew fascistic nonsense for two hours. Tucker desperately tries to have Putin condemn the American "wokeness", while the later doesn't listen and lectures Carlson in a "blood and soil" rewriting of 20th century history.

So yeah, I don't think anyone should be taking their informations from either of those clowns.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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The courts threatened to arrest his legal representation if he didn't comply with their demands to take down accounts accused of spreading misinformation and hate speech. So Elon closed all offices in Brasil. You think he should risk having an employee thrown in jail?

Defying a court order can get you arrested in any country.

Isn’t this scenario the equivalent of arresting a lawyer due to the actions of their client? I can’t think of any country with a functioning legal system that does that

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Can anyone speak to the motivations of this judge? Does he have a valid/legal/moral point under Brazilian law with attempts to ban those accounts on X? Or is he just a toady for da Silva?

Yes - there is a law that you need to have legal representation in Brazil and Musk is just flouting the law. So shutdown it is for Musk

shutdown it is because he didn’t agree on collaborating with a tyrant. Would you do it?

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This has been a bad week for Democracy/freedom of speech

In what way? Musk decides what's OK and not OK on twitter. Twitter isn't a platform to promote democracy, it promotes what Musk wants. Twitter has turned into hot garbage. For years my feed was pretty clean as it's almost exclusively tech. Gave it up recently as it was clogged with right-wing conspiracy, odd videos and random made up AI young women randomly following me occasionally.

In the way that Brazil has ordered Apple and Google to delete VPN apps from users' phones?

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This has been a bad week for Democracy/freedom of speech

In what way? Musk decides what's OK and not OK on twitter. Twitter isn't a platform to promote democracy, it promotes what Musk wants. Twitter has turned into hot garbage. For years my feed was pretty clean as it's almost exclusively tech. Gave it up recently as it was clogged with right-wing conspiracy, odd videos and random made up AI young women randomly following me occasionally.

Don’t forget unsolicited porn and videos of soldiers being blown up

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#67

for non-Brazilians trying to understand the situation: (1) a supreme court judge ordered X to remove some political profiles saying they are spreading misinformation (2) coincidentally (or not) most (if not all) profiles are from the opposition (3) Elon said that that was censorship and closed the office in Brazil (4) The judge applied hefty fines but those couldn't be fullfied since X doesnt have a bank account in B…

What's the structural link between X and Starlink?

Both are owned by Musk. I know that is too simple, but that is relatively common in Brazil (to easily link companies because they share owners or shareholders)

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This has been a bad week for Democracy/freedom of speech

In what way? Musk decides what's OK and not OK on twitter. Twitter isn't a platform to promote democracy, it promotes what Musk wants. Twitter has turned into hot garbage. For years my feed was pretty clean as it's almost exclusively tech. Gave it up recently as it was clogged with right-wing conspiracy, odd videos and random made up AI young women randomly following me occasionally.

That's ridiculous. You think Elon Musk goes around reading people's tweets and deciding what he wants or not? Or trained an AI model to only allow content that suits him?

The guy literally gets community-noted every once in a while. It's free speech.

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I am glad to see Brazil is not afraid of these billionaires. If only the US could start enforcing laws the same, no matter what your worth or who you are.

I wonder if Brazil is finally going after corruption that I believe exists there.

>“implement technological barriers to prevent the use of the X app by users of the iOS and Android systems” and to block the use of VPN applications.

I wonder how they can selectivity enforce the VPN part of the ban ?

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