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Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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Re: Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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The question is if they are impressive for a company worth $3.1 trillion. Annualizing this quarter's earnings it has a P/E of 45. And earnings "only" grew at 60% annualized, slower than in the past. (Revenue growth is also a bit slower as a percentage) So market likely sees decelerating growth which can't justify such a high P/E. e.g. if growth fell to say 30% YOY in a year, nvda would be seen as overvalued today.

> Annualizing this quarter's earnings it has a P/E of 45. And earnings "only" grew at 60% annualized, slower than in the past That's a PEG ratio of 1.5 [1], below the S&P 500's forward 2.63 [2]. (EDIT: It's 1.4x [3].) Wild times. [1] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/pegratio.asp [2] https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/spgi/price-ear... [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41384923

Isn't spgi the company not the index?

I'm seeing 17% projected growth in earnings: https://ycharts.com/indicators/sp_500_earnings_per_share_ttm...

P/e is 24. ($493 billion quarterly earnings, $47 trillion market cap). - and yes, nvda is literally alone 6% of sp500 earnings.

Peg is 1.4 as a comparable to the way I calculated Nvidia.

Re: Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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Because markets are forward-looking. They know this cycle of the AI hype bubble is coming to an end, so to put it simply, this earnings release is as good as it will get for a while. The market believes there's nowhere to go but down from here.

> put it simply, this earnings release is as good as it will get for a while They literally guided more growth for the next quarter and Nvidia is notorious for sandbagging this number.

They can say whatever they want, but the market clearly isn’t buying it.

Re: Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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Because markets are forward-looking. They know this cycle of the AI hype bubble is coming to an end, so to put it simply, this earnings release is as good as it will get for a while. The market believes there's nowhere to go but down from here.

That's not the correct interpretation. Earnings will likely be higher next quarter. It's just that the rate of growth is slowing and when nvda is at a 45 P/E, you need high growth to justify its market cap.

How is my interpretation not in line with what you just said?

Re: Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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> Annualizing this quarter's earnings it has a P/E of 45. And earnings "only" grew at 60% annualized, slower than in the past That's a PEG ratio of 1.5 [1], below the S&P 500's forward 2.63 [2]. (EDIT: It's 1.4x [3].) Wild times. [1] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/pegratio.asp [2] https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/spgi/price-ear... [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41384923

Isn't spgi the company not the index? I'm seeing 17% projected growth in earnings: https://ycharts.com/indicators/sp_500_earnings_per_share_ttm... P/e is 24. ($493 billion quarterly earnings, $47 trillion market cap). - and yes, nvda is literally alone 6% of sp500 earnings. Peg is 1.4 as a comparable to the way I calculated Nvidia.

> Isn't spgi the company not the index?

Yes. Yes it is.

Re: Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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Because markets are forward-looking. They know this cycle of the AI hype bubble is coming to an end, so to put it simply, this earnings release is as good as it will get for a while. The market believes there's nowhere to go but down from here.

The market thought Nvidia was toast when cryptocurrency flopped over. The demand for GPGPU compute is pervasive, and even if LLMs go nowhere then there's still applications for CUDA and high-performance server compute. When the dust settles, Nvidia's lifeline is less the AI demand and more their server niche they fill. Besides Apple, who can't be forced to build server hardware at gunpoint, Nvidia is the only TSMC cu…

No one here is saying NVidia is toast. Read my reply again.

Re: Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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Numbers are impressive, not sure why it's down in AH.

> not sure why it's down in AH It could be due to gross margins, though they're pretty much in line with estimates [1]. I'd guess it's noise from options rebalancing [2]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-forecasts-third-qu... [2] https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-results-could-spur...

Are the hedgies short laddering to inflict max pain?

Re: Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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> not sure why it's down in AH It could be due to gross margins, though they're pretty much in line with estimates [1]. I'd guess it's noise from options rebalancing [2]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-forecasts-third-qu... [2] https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-results-could-spur...

Are the hedgies short laddering to inflict max pain?

> hedgies short laddering to inflict max pain

Probably not unless there is a lot of retail on one side of the 0D options book. Also, it would be a reverse squeeze, not short ladder, which is largely a mythical beast invented to salve day traders.

Re: Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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Forget about the market reaction for a minutes, which is always difficult to interpret. More holistically, aren't we underestimating their dev ecosystems (CUDA etc.)? Think of the dev ecosystem effects in all the various permutations, e.g. from Windows or Apple to AWS to more granular like PyTorch. Those advantages aren't easily eliminated just by more competitors or even 'better' competitors.

Reactions to earnings are always a bit random. But holicistally, if you were to buy the entire Nvidia company today, even if those advantages continue untouched for the next 10 years, and competition doesn't catch up, and the AI boom continues ... you're still not getting your money back. That's how high the valuation is.

Do you assume the current growth rate?

Re: Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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Numbers are impressive, not sure why it's down in AH.

Everyone already knew they were going to be impressive so the stock price reflected that, and so it fell because they were expecting it to be slightly more impressive than it already was.

Re: Nvidia Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2025

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> put it simply, this earnings release is as good as it will get for a while They literally guided more growth for the next quarter and Nvidia is notorious for sandbagging this number.

They can say whatever they want, but the market clearly isn’t buying it.

No, that only thing clear is that the market expected better results.

Not achieving those results does not imply that results are going downhill from now, as you suggest.

Slowing growth and cooling margins are reasonable explanations for the stock being down even in light of continued growth.

If the market believed that demand had indeed peaked this quarter as you suggest, the stock would absolutely crater.

But nobody reasonable believes that. All the data from outside Nvidia (eg: Capex from hyperscalers) also points to continued growth.

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