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Modern Wardriving (2023)

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Re: Modern Wardriving (2023)

#61

Google productionized this with their Google Maps product. It’s how they know more about where you are by utilizing WiFi signals.

Since 2024-03, at least Apple allows AP owners to opt out.

(search for "_nomap")

https://web.archive.org/web/20240328071851/https://support.a...

Re: Modern Wardriving (2023)

#62

Instead of using all this fancy hardware just to contribute to a proprietary database, i'd recommend uploading to BeaconDB[1] using NeoStumbler[2] on your phone. [1] https://beacondb.net/ [2] https://github.com/mjaakko/NeoStumbler

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/05/why-your-wi-fi-router-do...

Re: Modern Wardriving (2023)

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post #61

Google productionized this with their Google Maps product. It’s how they know more about where you are by utilizing WiFi signals.

Since 2024-03, at least Apple allows AP owners to opt out. (search for "_nomap") https://web.archive.org/web/20240328071851/https://support.a...

opt-out is a bandaid, not a solution

Re: Modern Wardriving (2023)

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In 1895 a young Italian studying Maxwell's equations wondered if perhaps you didn't need wires to send an electromagnetic message, and after months of tinkering beamed the first radio message which rang a bell on the other side of his parent's attic. The first person he showed this to was his mother, who to her credit didn't accuse him of witchcraft but gave him a hug and supported him in all his future ventures. He…

This hits home as we just came from Marconi beach on Cape Cod where one of the antennas was. There is no antenna left, just a plaque marking the spot. In a way it's a little sad how behind this area is at this point compared to the energy of the times.

That's my favorite beach. Whenever I'm there I have to walk to the memorial.

If you ever go back, take the time to walk the hiking path behind the bathrooms. It goes into a gorgeous redwood grove. The boardwalk reminds me of the "tree" level in Myst.

Re: Modern Wardriving (2023)

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Freeloaders? Well, yeah: isn't that the whole point? We're all freeloaders, in some sense, unless you think you've earned the water you drink and the air you breathe. By giving back to the Freeloader-available Resource Pool (the commons), you're becoming less of a freeloader. Malicious actors? That relies on there being malicious actors physically near you , which isn't necessarily a valid assumption. Set up a DMZ, t…

>Set up a DMZ, try it, and see No, I don't think I will. I will continue to keep my wifi password protected so that randoms can't degrade my Internet speed by torrenting movies 24/7, send death threats to public officials from my IP address, or engage in other unsavory activities. Not sure why you are equating a natural resource like air with a paid service like Internet connectivity, but it comes off as bizarre and…

probably worlds colliding

some ppl view "internet service" similar as access to drinking water, which some countries have legal obligations for and the public sentiment would be very much against you if you deny it to any stranger.

some countries/ppl not so much

Re: Modern Wardriving (2023)

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This hits home as we just came from Marconi beach on Cape Cod where one of the antennas was. There is no antenna left, just a plaque marking the spot. In a way it's a little sad how behind this area is at this point compared to the energy of the times.

That's my favorite beach. Whenever I'm there I have to walk to the memorial. If you ever go back, take the time to walk the hiking path behind the bathrooms. It goes into a gorgeous redwood grove. The boardwalk reminds me of the "tree" level in Myst.

?

I could be wrong but I've never seen redwoods in Massachusetts.

Re: Modern Wardriving (2023)

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post #64

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That's my favorite beach. Whenever I'm there I have to walk to the memorial. If you ever go back, take the time to walk the hiking path behind the bathrooms. It goes into a gorgeous redwood grove. The boardwalk reminds me of the "tree" level in Myst.

? I could be wrong but I've never seen redwoods in Massachusetts.

Could just be the local pitch pine. It's all over the cape.

Re: Modern Wardriving (2023)

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's my favorite beach. Whenever I'm there I have to walk to the memorial. If you ever go back, take the time to walk the hiking path behind the bathrooms. It goes into a gorgeous redwood grove. The boardwalk reminds me of the "tree" level in Myst.

? I could be wrong but I've never seen redwoods in Massachusetts.

It's Atlantic White Cedar: https://www.nps.gov/caco/planyourvisit/atlanticwhitecedar.ht...

Re: Modern Wardriving (2023)

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>Set up a DMZ, try it, and see No, I don't think I will. I will continue to keep my wifi password protected so that randoms can't degrade my Internet speed by torrenting movies 24/7, send death threats to public officials from my IP address, or engage in other unsavory activities. Not sure why you are equating a natural resource like air with a paid service like Internet connectivity, but it comes off as bizarre and…

probably worlds colliding some ppl view "internet service" similar as access to drinking water, which some countries have legal obligations for and the public sentiment would be very much against you if you deny it to any stranger. some countries/ppl not so much

Worse than that, some jurisdictions double-dip: regulate internet access like a utility, but treat it as a private resource (allowing regional monopolies that provide barely-usable service and set their own prices); make an internet connection legally mandatory (via a combination of employment, banking, and anti-homeless laws), but decline to fund public libraries (which provide internet access to those who otherwise don't have it).
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