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In a leaked recording, AWS CEO tells most developers could stop coding soon

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Re: In a leaked recording, AWS CEO tells most developers could stop coding soon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If "programmer productivity" increases then I'll spend 90% of my time thinking and talking to domain experts instead of 80%. Being able to write executable software is not and never has been the problem. But, sure, if it ever becomes easy to write working software then you can expect programmer salaries to fall precipitously, at least to the level of nurses or any other occupation that requires training but essential…

Interesting, for me, it has been the opposite. You spend some time identifying the problem, meet with a few customers (if it's your own business) or have a chat with your employer. Once you get an idea of what is needed you get to work. I'd say 90% of the time is spent implementing for me.

What do you mean by "implementation", though? Notice I said 80% of my time includes thinking. In other words, only around 20% is typing, which is the only thing LLMs help with. For me, most of my time "implementing" is thinking.

Re: In a leaked recording, AWS CEO tells most developers could stop coding soon

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So many bad takes in that article. It will be interesting to look back in 5+ years to see how things play out vs this unlimited optimism. > "everyone is a programmer now" I’ve heard this about so many things. Various tool they make everyone a programmer, or everyone a DBA. Nice dreams, that never seem to play out. Being a programmer isn’t about the syntax, it’s about breaking problems down, so they can logically be b…

They despise dependencies so much. Half of there life is to get rid of them - declared as "risks" and "depending on some guy down the hall who codes really well" just makes them loose sleep at night. And they put so much effort into this side-quest. No code, low code, everyone codes, simple languages, uml-programing,graph-based programing, so easy my intern can do it, outsourced programming, code by specs, all just t…

I guess dependency is powerlessness and thus depending on programming, without the ability to control your destiny, is the equivalent of power thirsty sociopath torture. Makes ones life that one notch more beautiful, going into work..

Re: In a leaked recording, AWS CEO tells most developers could stop coding soon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am missing something, what is being said that signals incompetence?

> I am missing something, what is being said that signals incompetence? You could start at the first quoted remark: "If you go forward 24 months from now, or some amount of time — I can't exactly predict where it is — it's possible that most developers are not coding." 1. Doesn't seem to demonstrate understanding of what developers actually do. 2. Poor understanding of the limitations of the technology he's talking a…

OK fair enough. There was some salesmanship and exaggeration going on for sure, but I thought the follow up quote clarified what he meant, or at least the way I read it, which is that code assistants will significantly reduce the amount of boilerplate coding that users are having to write by hand, which will give engineers more time to spend on the design part of the job. I didn't read this as saying your job is not safe because AI is coming, but maybe I am looking at this with tinted lenses
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