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Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android

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Post by xela79 » Tue, Aug 20, 2024, 1:59 PM UTC

aranelsurion wrote: post #37

Vespasian wrote: post #6

That process they show in the youtube video is pretty involved and very complex for no other reason than to keep people locked in to the apple store. As a layman I doubt this is compliant with the appropriate EU laws (specifically the DMA) Unfortunately this behaviour does not come as a surprise but I certainly hope the regulatory "beatings" will continue until compliance improves.

Just installed the Epic Store, my experience step-by-step: 1. Go to Epic Store website, click on Install 2. Nothing happens 3. Click again 4. Popup message appears, I click OK 5. Popup gone. Do I have the app now? 6. No I don’t. I read the steps again. 7. Ooh I needed to go to Settings and approve it there. 8. I went to Settings, it appears at the top. I click. 9. Another popup with lots of text appears. I click yes.…

just went to the site, read what was there; Click install, go to settings, approve, click install. Go to app library, launch epic store; DONE

RTFM

Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android

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Post by lucianbr » Tue, Aug 20, 2024, 2:10 PM UTC

ffgjgf1 wrote: post #60

lucianbr wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what sort risks are there? The aren’t handling your personal information The sites themselves disagree with you. They think there's risk, which is why they decided to not work in the EU. EU does not "threaten very high fines" to sites that do not collect PII. GDPR does nothing if you don't collect information. But they obviously do collect it, despite your denial.

I meant risk for consumers due to those sites not complying with GDPR. Of course the site owners think there it introduces unnecessary risks for them, that was more or less what my initial comment was about. > But they obviously do collect it, despite your denial. How? are you somehow compelled to share you name and address with random local/small new-sites from the US They very likely are just using ads and/or analy…

The analytics services gather enough detail to personally identify you. You know, IP, browser fingerprint, geolocation, corroborated with other sites you visited gets you gender, age bracket, lifestyle... the noose slowly tightens. This stuff is public knowledge and has been discussed ad nauseam.

How else than technically should they comply with the GDPR? Morally? They don't do that either. They gather as much as possible and deduce as much as possible from it. Are you actually claiming services like Google Analytics aren't interested in knowing much about a site's visitors?

Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android

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Post by sebstefan » Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 6:24 AM UTC

aurareturn wrote: post #58

sebstefan wrote: post #23

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They can't have their cake and eat it too. When you entrench yourself in a monopoly, there are duties that come with it There could've been other app stores. There could've been a choice at startup like there is for browsers. There could've been 4 or 5 app stores installed by default whether you're on a Pixel or on a Samsung device. It is nobody's fault but Google's that they became a gatekeeper with their app store.…

>They can't have their cake and eat it too. When you entrench yourself in a monopoly, there are duties that come with it I mean, it seems like people want their cake and eat it too. Not Google. People want no commission, and for Google to spend resources policing the app store. Since Google open sources Android, Google doesn't make money from the OS itself. They only make money through pre-installed Google apps and t…

People would accept all of that as a "fact of life" if a healthy market existed and we noticed this was the best we could do.

People are not fine with an arbitrary number of 30% and no serious competition to go to to find a better service.

If Google finds the demands unreasonable they shouldn't have put themselves in a monopoly position that'd allow them to become gatekeepers