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Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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Are you alright? This reads like it was written by someone actively experiencing psychosis or a manic episode.

Sorry I was feeding into his manic episode. I do see the point he’s making but it’s flawed. It’s similar to the gun debate.

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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There is a striking divide between how the rich and FAANG employed treat technology around their kids versus everyone else. The single most potent difference I’ve seen as a result is their kids’ ability to maintain eye contact during conversation.

I must not find the divide as strikining because it's not clear to me whether your comment intends to highlight rich+FAANG parents as better or worse at appropriately managing technology around their kids.

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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Our middle school has banned phones during school hours, and it's been great. Even though most kids own phones and have them in their backpacks, they aren't seen. There are less problems during classes and kids have to talk to each other during lunch instead of going head down in their phones. Parental pushback has been really minimal - most parents love it, and it's good for the kids. Making no phones a blanket poli…

it's all good until that thing that happens at American schools, happens... That is my one hang up here. It would be idealistic to believe that the Police would protect kids, but in reality there are far too many cases of them being grossly negligent in this exact circumstance... in many of those cases, having a phone played a pivotal role in security. I don't want to get too far into details on HN for the sake of ke…

most kids will likely still carry a phone, likely on their person, and try to sneak occasionally. Others will have their phone in their backpack.

And teachers will still carry phones, which they can hand to any kid during an incident if they need to focus on corralling students.

This decentralization is imo more resilient to a school shooter scenario than a centralized cubby system.

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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> more effective to just install a cell phone jammer in the schools It would be very difficult to engineer this to not jam cell phones just beyond school property. (You’d also need federal approval. Banning is easier.)

Here in Germany, most stores have effective zero cell reception immediately once you enter in the store and everything is normal once you are near the exit. In stores where people can order online, they offer free wifi(sometimes). I can see a similar approach in schools.

> most stores have effective zero cell reception

Is this intentional or a consequence of closed brick construction?

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> lighter attacks (scratches, jumping, sniffing, licking...) Sniffing and licking are not “attacks”. If they are, a car honking or braking suddenly is a crash. > If students have no cameras, many more teachers would bring their "pets" into school How many teachers brought pets to school before the 2000s? How many people brought pets to the office? (If anything, there are more pets at the workplace now than ever befor…

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> why my kid needs recorder, many abusers try to down play such attacks!

Have you ever had anyone in a position of authority do anything about a dog sniffing or licking your kid? Because if so, that’s national-news level hilarious.

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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Having used a Palm Pilot to genuine benefit in highschool in the 90s, and having finally just gotten a smart watch in part specifically to reduce smartphone usage, I have mixed feelings about broad restrictions. Networked smart phones absolutely have major addictive and disruptive effects, and are hard to police in practice. But watches provide some pretty useful health and emergency benefits, while IME have lived up…

Me and my wife were discussing this earlier, and we both agreed we missed the days of cellphones + PDAs. That era was so much less predatory to our time, and there’s something to be said about the mental separation between “fun text time” and a dedicated work device. It’s just a shame that given the current technological landscape the closest we have to PDAs are tablets, which are typically too large to pocket (and n…

yeah let em have flip phones with T9 word and snake. those Nokias had the benefit of being invincible

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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And then teachers would not be able to call 911 if there is an emergency in class. Next suggestion, please, this one was no good.

Do classes no longer have a wired phone?

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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post #52

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it's all good until that thing that happens at American schools, happens... That is my one hang up here. It would be idealistic to believe that the Police would protect kids, but in reality there are far too many cases of them being grossly negligent in this exact circumstance... in many of those cases, having a phone played a pivotal role in security. I don't want to get too far into details on HN for the sake of ke…

Between teachers phones, intercoms, cameras, and hardline phones there should be plenty of communication equipment available for a crisis. If anything having a phone could put someone in jeopardy by making noise and giving away position or distracting owner. What is the scenario that it has helped? Have police coordinated response based upon students phoned in reports and telemetry?

Not really. There have been phone calls to 911 during school shootings but reading a few reports, it's never made a difference since schools tend to be hardwired straight to dispatch which is most important. Big failings like Uvalde has been terrible response by first responders which is "Push forward till threat has ended."

Yes, parents have been called by students during incident but that generally makes situation worse as parents run to the school causing delays for first responders.

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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There is a striking divide between how the rich and FAANG employed treat technology around their kids versus everyone else. The single most potent difference I’ve seen as a result is their kids’ ability to maintain eye contact during conversation.

I must not find the divide as strikining because it's not clear to me whether your comment intends to highlight rich+FAANG parents as better or worse at appropriately managing technology around their kids.

> whether your comment intends to highlight rich+FAANG parents as better or worse at appropriately managing technology around their kids

Rich and FAANG parents tend to be better at restricting their kids’ phone and tablet use. Far from universal. But take this article—Greenwich is a rich town.

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