I get a HTTP/2 403 from a US IP address. The html payload has Cloudflare Ray all over it.
So…does that mean Cloudflare is aiding a government in functioning in an authoritarian way?
Lots of governments use Cloudflare
The UK government has blocked IPs
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#62For those unaware, the UK police are currently promising to go after people posting misinformation and retweeting content (including video of riots) that might incite hate. In response to this the UK police are being trolled on their live chats (largely by Americans I believe). I did originally post a link to these (you can find them on X), but given the content I don't want to risk it. I'm assuming they're now block…
For completeness, the context here is a social media post alleging the identity of someone arrested hours earlier for a mass murder at a children’s play group — an extremely distressing event that has been followed, for unclear reasons, by nationwide rioting. This person was “arrested in relation to a post about the identity of the attacker in the Southport murders ” and specifically “on suspicion of publishing writt…
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> I'm currently waiting for a knock at my door along with 65 million of Brits who have posted inaccurate information online from time to time. Legal note: if anything I have said here is inaccurate I was unaware of it at the time of posting. how fucking funny. Everytime when something like this is getting discussed the only response is sarcasm and hybris. No acknowledgment of the problem, no ideas, just fucking bad…
The problem isn't the hate speech or the enforcement really. The problem is that these powers have, can, and will be abused by petty bureaucrats, power-hungry law enforcement, the government itself and, as a result, enable actual tyranny.
They are actively being be abused. The UK, Canada, Oz and NZ are excellent examples.
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#65I blindly clicked this expecting an article about the matter. Was kinda surprised to be given a live demonstration. I can reach nhs.uk fine. Edit: searching Google, there are recent reports that make me feel like this is their response to being too incompetent to process cyber crime reports. I’m genuinely curious if someone unilaterally decided that people not physically in the uk don’t matter.
Doesn't work from Australia either, so apparently the Commonwealth can get fucked. I imagine some middle-ranking civil servants at the FCO will, in a not-too-distant-future, be expressing a measure of dismay to their Home Office counterparts. Before which time, hopefully, the gov.uk folks will figure out how to selectively block access to live reporting channels, not the entire police service, in response to vexatiou…
> immemorial
This word just got added to my vocabulary for future use. Thanks stranger.
Re: The UK government has blocked IPs
#66For those unaware, the UK police are currently promising to go after people posting misinformation and retweeting content (including video of riots) that might incite hate. In response to this the UK police are being trolled on their live chats (largely by Americans I believe). I did originally post a link to these (you can find them on X), but given the content I don't want to risk it. I'm assuming they're now block…
>> I'm currently waiting for a knock at my door along with 65 million of Brits who have posted inaccurate information online from time to time. Legal note: if anything I have said here is inaccurate I was unaware of it at the time of posting. how fucking funny. Everytime when something like this is getting discussed the only response is sarcasm and hybris. No acknowledgment of the problem, no ideas, just fucking bad…
I think part of the problem at hand is when laws written poorly can be enforced in ways that don't align with the meaning behind the original laws.
The solution really is simple - write clearly defined and contained laws or don't write any at all. Most people wouldn't be comfortable with that, though, and in a world where news stories and political debates are forgotten in a matter of weeks people won't find it acceptable if legislators spend months or years writing laws that are easy to understand and don't come with a mountain of edge cases and loopholes.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't work from Australia either, so apparently the Commonwealth can get fucked. I imagine some middle-ranking civil servants at the FCO will, in a not-too-distant-future, be expressing a measure of dismay to their Home Office counterparts. Before which time, hopefully, the gov.uk folks will figure out how to selectively block access to live reporting channels, not the entire police service, in response to vexatiou…
There's a good chance that instead of "fuck you Aussies", what we have is a firewall that has been battered to the point of banning most of the world. The UK is under some form of attack at the moment (probably mostly internally generated - no need to invoke bogeymen). We have seen quite a lot of anti racist activity recently and it is likely the nasty lot have been contained (hopefully). The Commonwealth is always w…
I think the EU is affected as well by this. If there was any foreign region that needs access to the police services of the UK, I would bet the neighboring EU countries would be at the top of the list.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem isn't the hate speech or the enforcement really. The problem is that these powers have, can, and will be abused by petty bureaucrats, power-hungry law enforcement, the government itself and, as a result, enable actual tyranny.
Because there is no other way in a democracy to handle overreach... it's always the same straw man argument. "We'll end up in a dystopian autocratic tyranny nightmare TOMORROW if we do anything against it. With the only conclusion let's do nothing at all." Great input.
Rather than disregarding the concern, how would you propose the overreach should be handled? And is it possible to handle the overreach before it harms citizens caught in the middle, or can it only be dealt with after innocent people are on the wrong end of the overreach?
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#70For those unaware, the UK police are currently promising to go after people posting misinformation and retweeting content (including video of riots) that might incite hate. In response to this the UK police are being trolled on their live chats (largely by Americans I believe). I did originally post a link to these (you can find them on X), but given the content I don't want to risk it. I'm assuming they're now block…
For completeness, the context here is a social media post alleging the identity of someone arrested hours earlier for a mass murder at a children’s play group — an extremely distressing event that has been followed, for unclear reasons, by nationwide rioting. This person was “arrested in relation to a post about the identity of the attacker in the Southport murders ” and specifically “on suspicion of publishing writt…
I hope the police are ready for a decade where a single highly motivated person who is willing to risk punishment can instantly weild the credence of one half of the entire debate, and win the attention of everyone with hushed sympathies. This is an extremely dangerous political climate.