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Starting Hospice

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Re: Starting Hospice

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I highly recommend this film "Griefwalker" to anyone anytime death comes up. I find Stephen's views fascinating and for an end that meets us all we sure like to avoid talking about death. https://www.nfb.ca/film/griefwalker/

For me it's The Fountain.

Re: Starting Hospice

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Lost my wife about 1.5 years ago. It was expected and unexpected at the same time. Long metastatic cancer treatment that ended all of the sudden, in a few weeks of unconsciousness ("coma") with an auto immune brain disease, likely caused by chemo.

As the partner left behind, I nothing but empathy to Bess. As an avid, ultra pragmatic, HN reader though, I've gathered resources so I'll list them here:

Forums / chats:

https://www.reddit.com/r/widowers/ - This one I used immediately after. Yelling into the void. Crying. Having other people cry with me. Make sure I'm heard.

https://discord.gg/CFQfCdby - /r/widowers discord. This one is "good" for the first few days / weeks / months, when the pain is great and the sense of lost is overcoming and you just need someone to talk with, someone who's been through this, right now. Everyone is friendly, rules to keep things sane and not triggering are in effect.

Facebook groups - I know, ugh. But it helps to see other people in the same boat. Somehow. A little. For me it was "Young and Widowed With Children" (well, me) and some of the black humor groups e.g. "Widow(er) Humor". Find your tribe. It really does help.

Books:

It's ok you're not ok - https://www.amazon.com/Its-That-Youre-Not-Understand/dp/1622... - This is "the book". Everyone recommends it and it's justified. If you can't bring yourself to read, get the audible version. I did, it was easier to lie in bed with eyes closed.

Irreverent Grief Guide - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08L5RRJ9D - this one is a "how to" guide. I mean a real "how to", emotionally. I, and possibly many on /r/widowers/ found it priceless.

Videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOvi0Aa2EA - Huberman labs - a really short video on how your brain needs to reorient itself after loss.

Kids:

"The widow's survival guide" - https://www.amazon.com/Widows-Survival-Guide-Living-Children... - "you're not alone in the mess" kind of book. Again, audible version available.

Kids' books (mine was 3.5 so YMMV):

Reread over and over:

  - The invisible string - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/031648623X
  - Fix-it man - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1925335348
  - Missing mummy - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0230749518
  - The sad dragon - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1948040999
  - Something very sad happened - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1433822660
Read once or twice:

  - Love is forever - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0615884059
  - I'll See You In The Moon - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1989123309
  - My heart will stay - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0578794578
  - The heart and the bottle - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0399254528
  - Always remember - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0399168095
  - The garden of lost balls - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BLQW27XX
  - Gone but never forgotten - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09SNY9VF3
Therapy and meds:

Actually, therapy and meds before, if not already. Anticipatory grief is a thing and processing it can make later days a bit easier. Anti anxiety meds (NDRI) can create "inoculation" effect to some extent. SSRIs probably as well. Understand depression, the symptoms, the issues. Educate family and friends. Establish rapport with a therapist.

Friends and community:

Expect loss of friends. It's terrible but it happens a lot. Extremely common that friends will silently disappear after a few days or weeks. Not even just joint friends. People are awkward around grief. Community, however, does seem to work well. Rely on them. Don't say no to food offers, it helps. Doordash! Don't be shy about it, it's fine to eat junk food. Don't drink though and don't get high, it deepens and prolongs the grief symptoms.

Calls:

Don't forget your family or close friends. I've had daily calls with my sister. It helped a ton. Scheduled daily calls.

Re: Starting Hospice

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Lost my wife about 1.5 years ago. It was expected and unexpected at the same time. Long metastatic cancer treatment that ended all of the sudden, in a few weeks of unconsciousness ("coma") with an auto immune brain disease, likely caused by chemo. As the partner left behind, I nothing but empathy to Bess. As an avid, ultra pragmatic, HN reader though, I've gathered resources so I'll list them here: Forums / chats: ht…

Forgot to add: Journaling helped me a lot. I favored writing this as "letters" / "texts" to my wife. As if she's here, just telling her about my day, feelings, emotions, what our kid did, what happened around us, family and friends. Venting, crying, blaming, being frustrated, being happy, being proud. All goes in there.

Re: Starting Hospice

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Hacker News, thank you for all the links and all the great reading. Now I have to say goodbye. I’m with my wife Bess ( https://bessstillman.substack.com/ ) and my brother Sam, and crying, but it is okay. At the end of Lord of the Rings Gandalf says to the hobbits, "Go in peace! I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.” And that is how I feel now. Ending prematurely hurts, but all things must end, a…

Gandalf also said, "End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it."

Great quote.

Also, props for a cool personal blog and project list, I'm listening to Phasmaphobe now... congrats on creating and publishing a full-length album! No easy feat.

Re: Starting Hospice

#66
Thank you for everything.

My mom just passed from ALS and now this. It's so unfair that we have essentially no working treatments for these, even though they always tout how advanced medicine is but I feel like it really is not advanced at all

Re: Starting Hospice

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Hi Jake, I lost my father to cancer this year, he was 59. I hope you know your memory lives with the people that are with you, now and in the future. I understand what your family is going through even though I can't understand your pain, thanks for putting your writings out there, take care.

Re: Starting Hospice

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post #2

Hacker News, thank you for all the links and all the great reading. Now I have to say goodbye. I’m with my wife Bess ( https://bessstillman.substack.com/ ) and my brother Sam, and crying, but it is okay. At the end of Lord of the Rings Gandalf says to the hobbits, "Go in peace! I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.” And that is how I feel now. Ending prematurely hurts, but all things must end, a…

See ya on the other side. Or not.

Re: Starting Hospice

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post #2

Hacker News, thank you for all the links and all the great reading. Now I have to say goodbye. I’m with my wife Bess ( https://bessstillman.substack.com/ ) and my brother Sam, and crying, but it is okay. At the end of Lord of the Rings Gandalf says to the hobbits, "Go in peace! I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.” And that is how I feel now. Ending prematurely hurts, but all things must end, a…

Gandalf also said, "End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it."

He did? I'm surprised to find a quote I'm not familiar with. On what page of which edition did he say this?
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