Amazon EC2 down? • Hacker News Board

Re: Amazon EC2 down?

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Post by donavanm » Sat, Jun 16, 2012, 4:35 AM UTC

barkingtoad wrote: post #52

chintan wrote: post #12

We learnt our lesson the hard way after the great AWScalypse of Apr 2011. The lesson: Use n>1 hosting companies (even if one of them promises a-z-multiregion-distributed-fault-tolerant-back-up)

My co-location provider's data center has had about four hours of downtime in ten years. It turns out a backup diesel generator, redundant connectivity, and a good network/sysadmin are all anyone needs. People are now working out how to failover from AWS to Rackspace and that is infuriating to me. You... you need redundant clouds now? That can't be right!

Why do you assume amazon doesn't have " a backup diesel generator, redundant connectivity, and a good network/sysadmin"? And if they do have that why is your situation different?

Re: Amazon EC2 down?

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Post by barkingtoad » Sat, Jun 16, 2012, 7:47 PM UTC

donavanm wrote: post #61

barkingtoad wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My co-location provider's data center has had about four hours of downtime in ten years. It turns out a backup diesel generator, redundant connectivity, and a good network/sysadmin are all anyone needs. People are now working out how to failover from AWS to Rackspace and that is infuriating to me. You... you need redundant clouds now? That can't be right!

Why do you assume amazon doesn't have " a backup diesel generator, redundant connectivity, and a good network/sysadmin"? And if they do have that why is your situation different?

You tell me man. I guess the difference is I can install many more times more server horsepower for the $500/month rental of a half rack at my colo, and the result will be better uptime than EC2. I just can't install them immediately.

Re: Amazon EC2 down?

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Post by ShabbyDoo » Sun, Jun 17, 2012, 3:32 AM UTC

So, Amazon has said since the introduction of EC2 that, to ensure really high uptimes, customers should use multiple availability zones and architect their applications to survive an outage in a single availability zone. While I would question Amazon's competence if outages of any sort were overly frequent, Amazon has not had many at all and no recent cross-AZ ones. [This is correct, right?] I recognize that architecting applications to be performant across datacenters (tolerant of relatively high-latency replication), but Amazon seems to be a poster child for keeping its promises w.r.t. availability. Is my take on this incorrect?

Re: Amazon EC2 down?

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Post by Pythondj » Mon, Jun 18, 2012, 4:43 PM UTC

Emouri wrote: post #39

cardmagic wrote: post #21

This is why http://AppFog.com/ is investing in multiple IaaS and is not being hit nearly as hard. You can still sign up and even create apps.

On the other hand they don't have any prices listed, and their blog is down "Error establishing a database connection". This doesn't exactly inspire to go to them for hosting.

and on the other hand, check out the http://status.appfog.com/ page (hint: it doesn't exist)