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Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Post by eproxus »

sshine wrote: post #58
f6v wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We don’t show passports when entering Germany A FlixBus coming from Denmark is likely to be checked in Flensburg.

The busses get a lot more scrutiny.

It’s kind of a class problem, because they target the checks towards the cheapest means of traveling (i.e. most likely to carry illegal refugees). If you fly or take an expensive ferry there are practically never any checks.

Therefore people who can afford more expensive means of transportation don’t see the border checks as much.

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Post by betaby »

herbst wrote: post #46

The only EU border I know of that has a 24/7 checkpoint with gunned police is Germany Austria. And that is going on for years now. Nowhere else did I ever see a border here with permanent (and constantly heavy armed) checks. Also I live in Switzerland an no border is controlled permanently, generally I only was controlled once many years ago.

Why specifically Germany-Austria?

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Post by herbst »

betaby wrote: post #62
herbst wrote: post #46

The only EU border I know of that has a 24/7 checkpoint with gunned police is Germany Austria. And that is going on for years now. Nowhere else did I ever see a border here with permanent (and constantly heavy armed) checks. Also I live in Switzerland an no border is controlled permanently, generally I only was controlled once many years ago.

Why specifically Germany-Austria?

I am wondering this as well.

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Post by RandomThoughts3 »

raverbashing wrote: post #60
RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An inhabitant of an aging continent with less and less belief in its own future, slowly being consumed by racism and xenophobia despite being desperately in need of a foreign working force who doesn’t want to come and on the verge of succumbing once again to fascism rather than actually facing its own structural issue? Thank you, I think I know who I really am. Do you?

Yes, some people are awfully racist, and think even people from 100km away are insufferable Yes, some people are woefully naive and think any kind of immigration is a net gain Most people, thankfully, have a more balanced view of things

It’s shame none of these people have graced this discussion then because reading the comments here I’m ashamed to be somehow part of the same community.

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Post by t0bia_s »

Last week our bus (private travel company) was stoped on borders from France to Germany. They checked IDs of whole bus.

Entering Germany from west is more controlled than from east (never been checked from Czechia or Poland).

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Post by cenamus »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #36
cenamus wrote: post #32

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Why are you implying the thiefs are Roma? From what I've read and found out from local incidents it's normal people from Romania, Poland, Bulgaria and so on

Because the ethnicity of those from Romania, Poland, Bulgaria is usually Roma/Sinti, even though it's usually not politically correct to say it. Just ask people from Eastern Europe.

No, those usually just live in their camps and go begging, but they sure as hell don't drive for 1½ days to Austria to rob bike stores, as opposed to regular Polish/Bulgarian/Romanians. These groups are sometimes picked up, and just because racism against Roma and Sinti (who are actually stationary most of their lives) is still socially acceptable doesn't change that

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Post by cenamus »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #36
cenamus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you implying the thiefs are Roma? From what I've read and found out from local incidents it's normal people from Romania, Poland, Bulgaria and so on

Because the ethnicity of those from Romania, Poland, Bulgaria is usually Roma/Sinti, even though it's usually not politically correct to say it. Just ask people from Eastern Europe.

Here's a source for one instance in German, turns out it was Polish and Czech gangs of thieves.

https://ooe.orf.at/stories/3185677/

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Post by herbst »

Gud wrote: post #59
herbst wrote: post #47

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Visa hops are a normal, and usually accepted, thing tho. Ex. Thailand it's only 60 days. People still spend much longer there with short stops trough cheap AirAsia flights

What do you mean? Without a special visa you are only allowed 90 days in a 180 day period within Schengen. No visa hopping around it.

I actually wasn't aware and it led me down a rabbit hole that not even on a EU passport I am allowed to stay longer than 90 days in many countries without letting them know.

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Post by mikhailfranco »

mikhailfranco wrote: post #57
stop50 wrote: post #55

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OEF != ISAF https://web.archive.org/web/20220120001326/http://www.nato.i... OEF is an NATO Operation, Austrias policy is not to join any International primary Military Organization.

OK, good. So ... 3 soldiers (about 20% of Tonga's contribution)

Austria: GDP $516.0b, pop 9.0m

Tonga : GDP $000.5b, pop 0.1m

So Tonga 1/1000 GDP and ~1/100 pop contributed 5x more soldiers than Austria.

There's a Coldplay song:

Tonga: "Para-para-para-dise"

Austria: "Para-para-para-site"

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