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He created Oculus headsets as a teenager, now he makes AI weapons for Ukraine
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Re: He created Oculus headsets as a teenager, now he makes AI weapons for Ukraine
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Please post a source of the “unused tanks and planes” dumped in the desert.
I don't understand why OP made that comment (it doesn't seem like a big deal) but the US military has a bunch of boneyards for every branch. They are more like "neatly parked until salvage wants them" rather than dumped. Eg the Sierra Army Depot https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lassen_County,_C... Davis-Monthan AFB https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Aerial_photograp...
Yeah, that’s my point. It’s not like they’re dumped onto the side of the yard, when they get decommissioned they end up going into these or parts can come out of them.
People make these comments then have no problem swapping their car out every 4-5 years and it’s like what do you think happens with those eventually?
Re: He created Oculus headsets as a teenager, now he makes AI weapons for Ukraine
#63There's a grim irony to naming military technology companies (Anduril, Palantir) after objects from a story written by a survivor of the meat grinder that was World War I.
"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend."
Offense is defense.
War is peace.
Re: He created Oculus headsets as a teenager, now he makes AI weapons for Ukraine
#64One more comment: >"And the companies that did have expertise, like Google, like Facebook, like Apple, were refusing to work with the U.S. national security community." Idk if this is true. I suspect they--at a minimum--cooperate with the "soft" side of the defense industry (e.g. NSA). However, if they don't, I think there will come a time when we will have to bring them to heel. The world won't have the luxury of su…
Who is “we” in “we will have to”? As a citizen, I would strongly reject any increased national security involvement in tech; and as an employee, this may be the thing that pushes me to unionize.
Re: He created Oculus headsets as a teenager, now he makes AI weapons for Ukraine
#65One more comment: >"And the companies that did have expertise, like Google, like Facebook, like Apple, were refusing to work with the U.S. national security community." Idk if this is true. I suspect they--at a minimum--cooperate with the "soft" side of the defense industry (e.g. NSA). However, if they don't, I think there will come a time when we will have to bring them to heel. The world won't have the luxury of su…
A company like Google (or Apple for that matter), with their own freewheeling project systems, would rather jump into an olympic pool filled with razor blades and used condoms before taking any amount of money from the hellish morass that is the defense procurement system. The instant you enter the MIC, kiss goodbye to any of your internal business systems - you will be re-writing the way you work every second of eve…
Agreed on defense procurement revenue vs their current revenue streams. But they are given national-level amounts of resources (eg gigawatts for their data centers). In a wartime footing that would go away unless they re-oriented to serve common effort.
Re: He created Oculus headsets as a teenager, now he makes AI weapons for Ukraine
#66One more comment: >"And the companies that did have expertise, like Google, like Facebook, like Apple, were refusing to work with the U.S. national security community." Idk if this is true. I suspect they--at a minimum--cooperate with the "soft" side of the defense industry (e.g. NSA). However, if they don't, I think there will come a time when we will have to bring them to heel. The world won't have the luxury of su…
Who is “we” in “we will have to”? As a citizen, I would strongly reject any increased national security involvement in tech; and as an employee, this may be the thing that pushes me to unionize.
We = The people with guns who control the nation and access to the inputs and trade networks (e.g. ports, sea-lanes, highways), and informations systems (e.g. fiber) that these companies rely on.
I also have no doubt that you personally might refuse to participate, but enough of your peers will re-orient to enable the corporation to keep moving.
Re: He created Oculus headsets as a teenager, now he makes AI weapons for Ukraine
#67One more comment: >"And the companies that did have expertise, like Google, like Facebook, like Apple, were refusing to work with the U.S. national security community." Idk if this is true. I suspect they--at a minimum--cooperate with the "soft" side of the defense industry (e.g. NSA). However, if they don't, I think there will come a time when we will have to bring them to heel. The world won't have the luxury of su…
> I think there will come a time when we will have to bring them to heel. So what you're saying is that we need to restrain their freedom so we can protect their freedom?
No, I'm not saying that at all.
Re: He created Oculus headsets as a teenager, now he makes AI weapons for Ukraine
#68One more comment: >"And the companies that did have expertise, like Google, like Facebook, like Apple, were refusing to work with the U.S. national security community." Idk if this is true. I suspect they--at a minimum--cooperate with the "soft" side of the defense industry (e.g. NSA). However, if they don't, I think there will come a time when we will have to bring them to heel. The world won't have the luxury of su…
A company like Google (or Apple for that matter), with their own freewheeling project systems, would rather jump into an olympic pool filled with razor blades and used condoms before taking any amount of money from the hellish morass that is the defense procurement system. The instant you enter the MIC, kiss goodbye to any of your internal business systems - you will be re-writing the way you work every second of eve…
Google does do work for the military.
Here is one source of many that came up from a quick Google search: https://techinquiry.org/?article=google-aerial
Re: He created Oculus headsets as a teenager, now he makes AI weapons for Ukraine
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who is “we” in “we will have to”? As a citizen, I would strongly reject any increased national security involvement in tech; and as an employee, this may be the thing that pushes me to unionize.
We = The people with guns who control the nation and access to the inputs and trade networks (e.g. ports, sea-lanes, highways), and informations systems (e.g. fiber) that these companies rely on. I also have no doubt that you personally might refuse to participate, but enough of your peers will re-orient to enable the corporation to keep moving.
At least for now, these kinds of things are decided by voters and their representatives, not “people with guns,” and plenty of those voters reject increased proliferation of the national security apparatus. I would argue that if that ever changes, this country will no longer be worth defending.
Re: He created Oculus headsets as a teenager, now he makes AI weapons for Ukraine
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
We = The people with guns who control the nation and access to the inputs and trade networks (e.g. ports, sea-lanes, highways), and informations systems (e.g. fiber) that these companies rely on. I also have no doubt that you personally might refuse to participate, but enough of your peers will re-orient to enable the corporation to keep moving.
At least for now, these kinds of things are decided by voters and their representatives, not “people with guns,” and plenty of those voters reject increased proliferation of the national security apparatus. I would argue that if that ever changes, this country will no longer be worth defending.
I don't control any of that. I work for one of those big name tech cos.
My comment isn't about being tough, it's about facing the reality that these companies won't be allowed to remain neutral (and my original comment expressed doubt that they're even neutral right now).
edit: my comment makes less sense in light of your edit