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AI speech generator 'reaches human parity' – but it's too dangerous to release

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Re: AI speech generator 'reaches human parity' – but it's too dangerous to release

#61

Too dangerous for PR reasons at least until after November .

If November is the reason, well, this isn't the last November with that concern...

From a big tech POV, a political scandal would be most PR-damaging right before a big US election. The time from right after to two years before or so, it wouldn't be as big a deal. Once you open Pandora's box, then a scandal in the next election cycle wouldn't be as big of a deal in terms of the company's responsibility/optics since the tech is already out there and it's a "new normal" at that point.

Re: AI speech generator 'reaches human parity' – but it's too dangerous to release

#62
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't the first time someone has spoken like this. It won't be the last. It's 100% marketing.

Based on what proof?

I guess based on 2000 years of commerce and marketing experience from people without an ounce of empathy.

Re: AI speech generator 'reaches human parity' – but it's too dangerous to release

#63

Ah, the old "it's too dangerous to release" marketing move. Why even tell us about it?

Not everything is a conspiracy. It is very plausible they're speaking genuinely.

That would require a for-profit corporate entity to be motivated by public safety. I can suspend my disbelief to some degree, but that's too far.

Re: AI speech generator 'reaches human parity' – but it's too dangerous to release

#64
post #4

Speech generation has gotten really good, but there's simply no way to faithfully recreate someone's vocal idiosyncracies and cadence with just "a few seconds" of real audio. That's where the models tend to fall short.

Few seconds means less than a minute. That’s not nothing. Look at a clock and talk for a minute — it’s longer than you might think. Do you think you could give a recording of a minute of someone talking to a talented impressionist and they could impersonate that person to some degree? It doesn’t seem that far fetched to me.

"Few" doesn't mean Getting high-quality audio for an arbitrary private citizen via public means isn't that easy, especially for folks like me that don't post video on public social media and use automated call screening and never say a word until the caller has been vetted.

Re: AI speech generator 'reaches human parity' – but it's too dangerous to release

#66

What is the point of them trying to create this? That something like this would mostly be used to create disinformation and create chaos is easily understood before making something like this. Truly irresponsible

The point is to spawn a new medium, you'll have to imagine harder how positive that could be as people with lots of ideas are not going to give them to you for free.

Perfecting the tech for wide-spread use has trade offs; need for caller id, ease of slandering until trust in voice uniqueness recalibrates, all of which is going to change soon anyway but giving only rich/bad actors the tech at first has its own set of trade offs. Head in the sand is the irresponsible way.

Re: AI speech generator 'reaches human parity' – but it's too dangerous to release

#67
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try StyleTTS2. You will still have to experiment with the settings a little to get the right level of adherence to the reference speaker’s voice and the emotion content.

Without looking at this, are you sure that this can do speech to speech? Maybe my flaw in searching has been disregarding anything that's called "text to speech" as not also "speech to speech"?

Ah my bad, you’re right. I think it doesn’t do V2V directly, but can use reference audio to guide TTS.

Re: AI speech generator 'reaches human parity' – but it's too dangerous to release

#68
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it's even more plausible this is just a marketing play to build hype. Take, for example, you just made some new super-pathogen in your basement lab. It could kill everyone on the planet. This is obviously pretty dangerous, so do you: A) silently dispose of it and hope nobody else ever makes the mistake of creating it. or B) keep it in the freezer and hold a press release about how you made it but it's too dangero…

No, it's not more plausible.

I am utterly impressed by the logic of this argument.
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