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How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Same thing with intermittent fasting. One deviation and the appetite comes back with a vengeance and you have to restart from scratch the process of getting used to fasting (which is the hard part, the appetite is what makes the caveman go out chase the mammoth, it's a strong force). Experimenting with Mounjaro right now + intermittent fasting. So far so good, but only one week into it. I am hoping to use it as a gua…

Not from scratch. It's a setback but you don't go to start line.

In term of getting your appettite used to intermittent fasting? Yes pretty much you do.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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To compare it to heroin is a horrible trivialization of something that destroys a person and at time those around the person. I feel that to make this statement in any genuine way, the author should spend 6 months developing a serious addiction to heroin then attempt to get clean. I am blessed I have never done heroin and hopefully I never will. I have gone weeks without sugar and had a craving, some mild headaches a…

Obesity related deaths are the second leading cause of preventable deaths in the US.

Sugar addiction can lead to obesity. And obesity can absolutely affect the lives of others around you.

I’ve mentioned here before how I’m the only person in my immediate family who isn’t obese. Growing up with obese family members can affect your lifestyle greatly. It’s not fun.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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I'm not sure I believed in sugar as an addiction at first. Then I tried this keto diet because I had seen my friend try it and he lost a lot of weight. And then I had this phenomenon that was so strong that I still remember it years later - I started having fantasies about soda/milkshakes in the middle of a workday. Like so intense/ongoing that the only thing I can compare them to is a teen's sexual fantasies. Mind y…

Several others have mentioned that after cutting back on sugar, many foods taste overly sweet, but they're probably still eating way more than you do when you're on Keto. When I stopped Keto, entire categories of food become intolerably sweet. It was at least a year or two before I could eat a burger. They're basically a meat cake!

McDonalds is actually OK for Keto. The restaurant is built on the principle of trying to trick you to have carbs so you still feel hungry and buy more, but actually the meat on its own isn't terrible. A couple of double cheeseburgers without buns in a stack makes a good meal. If you're really after the burger feeling, get two mayo chicken burgers without mayo or buns and use the lightly battered chicken burger as your "bread" and in the middle have a double cheeseburger without buns. Fortunately this combo doesn't have the nickname in the UK as it does in the US, but I'm always a little self-conscious when I'm eating it, just in case anyone around does know and what they might think of me! Also, in the UK at least, 3 items from the saver menu costs roughly the same as a normal meal deal, is much more filling and obviously keto friendly.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Replacement works for me. Replaced all added sugars stuff (drinks, ice cream, cookies) with fruit and the difference was very noticeable. Fruit also has its own kind of sugar, but my body runs differently on that compared with food with added sugar.

Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits) is more harmful than glucose though.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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why would protein kick you out of ketosis, on Keto alot of people, especially athletes load up on as much protein as they can and use fat to get the rest of their calories.

My biochem is a little rusty but basically your body can create glucose (carbs) from amino acids (proteins) in a process called gluconeogenesis. Because your body will preferentially use glucose over fat and ketones for fuel, it will prioritize this pathway and turn down/off the one that produces ketones... hence dropping you out of ketosis.

Your body doesn't prefer glucose over fat. Too much glucose is toxic, so your body will focus on reducing it first. Too little is also dangerous so your body will make some from protein if necessary. But only as much as it needs.

Fat adaptation is about shifting your hormonal balance and response to retrain your body to maintain a lower level of glucose, and to retrain your cravings and hunger.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Low carb has been around for a while, enough that people are aware it's a thing, and it's not that hard to pass up on the celebratory sugar, if you want just say it's for a medical condition and don't elaborate further and people will generally respect that. You aren't really telling us why this is unhealthy and unsustainable and stressful. In my experience avoiding sugar in the past, it's anything but.

To avoid sugar might not be impractical, but to avoid carbs altogether and go full keto? Very difficult for many, and would probably reduce my enjoyment of life quite a bit.

A smoker will say the same thing, smoking is a very pleasurable thing after all, the first hit in the morning can be almost orgasmic and if you go pack a day you get some of that sense of well-being more than once an hour.

It really takes the edge off things.

Yet it's quite possible to enjoy life without nicotine, as it is possible to enjoy life without high-carb foods.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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why would protein kick you out of ketosis, on Keto alot of people, especially athletes load up on as much protein as they can and use fat to get the rest of their calories.

My biochem is a little rusty but basically your body can create glucose (carbs) from amino acids (proteins) in a process called gluconeogenesis. Because your body will preferentially use glucose over fat and ketones for fuel, it will prioritize this pathway and turn down/off the one that produces ketones... hence dropping you out of ketosis.

I can't speak to whether or not it's true, but I heard the response to this question being that this process is quite precise, and functions specifically to meet the brain's glucose needs and nothing more.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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I'm 254 days into switching to a ketogenic diet (complete with at home instant ketone finger prick blood tests using the very affordable keto mojo), and can't believe I waited so long. I was roughly surfing sugar highs for 39 years. Would highly recommend looking into this if you are a sugar/carb addict like I was.

How much protein can you eat before getting kicked out of ketosis?

Carbs are what kick you out of ketosis. Protein and fats won't, but they have other issues. (Fiber can be a real challenge)

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Quitting cold turkey after a change of environment (moving somewhere else) is a good tip not just for addiction, but for any change in habit. However, a more practical approach is to reduce the dosage slowly. That works especially well for sweet drinks. If you have a soda maker, you can slowly reduce the amount of syrup you use. After a while, your tolerance for sweetness goes down, so things that previously felt not…

Gradual reduction is often more sustainable and manageable for most people. But for me that didn't work when I first started.
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