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Indonesia’s Emergence

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Re: Indonesia’s Emergence

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post #41

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On the other hand its not that hard to find people in former colonies who think colonial rule was better - if they have been sufficiently badly run since independence. Colonial rule is obviously worse than honest democratic government, but that is not what a lot of countries have had. I am a citizen of both a former British colony and a British citizen and I have fairly recent ancestry from another former British col…

Based on your blog, you have Sri Lankan ancestry. From the failed Dutch attempts at colonisation. That came after the failed Portugese attempts. Did British colonisation really have significant local support from the Sinhalese? Because I feel like the fact that there were two Kandyan wars before Britain managed to take control of Sri Lanka is a strong argument against that. And if the British colonisation had so much…

I also have Indian ancestry (and Dutch and Portuguese) and many other things.

With regard to India, and to some extent Sri Lanka, the worst lower castes had to fear from empires was that one oppressor would be replaced with another. They also got the opportunity to move and start elsewhere (as my fisher caste ancestors did, very successfully) where prejudices were weaker.

I would turn your question about Tamil labour in Sri Lanka around - why were they willing to leave their homes and go to another country to work for the British?

I did not say there everyone supported British rule, I said a large enough group did to make it viable. Minorities and oppressed groups were probably more likely to do so.

According to the books I have read on colonial Sri Lanka there was definitely support. It is also the only explanation of how a tiny number of British people could run the country (just as in India). Sometimes you would have one British civil servant in charge of a district, and the only British person in that district.

I recently read Leonard Woolf's biography (the second volume) and it is very illuminating on how things did work - and this is a work of a man who came to oppose the imperial project, so not biased in favour of it.

Re: Indonesia’s Emergence

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One thing I don’t understand is how Indonesia became an Islamic nation. One of the islands, Bali, is Hindu as I understand. That fits my expectations more given the geographical location. Is there some past history of religious brutality in this story?

> It came on ships and boats. It travelled with spices and silk. Swords remained in the scabbards, there was hardly any bloodshed. https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/how-islam-came-to-dominate...

Of course, the fact that there had to be water between Bali and Java for the people of Bali to keep their religion might mean something too.

Re: Indonesia’s Emergence

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As an Indonesian, I have to admit that most of our people are susceptible to cheap but clever personal branding. Before running on 2024 presidential election, Prabowo Subianto (the elected president) was imaged as a firm and authoritative former general. But, when he run on the presidential election, he changed his personal image to be a "gemoy" (a slang for chubby and cute kid/baby) and even dancing around with his…

What do people there vote for? Is it identities or is it pressing issues or propaganda or what?

Well, it is just my opinion, but I am sure the reality is not that far off. I think the majority are voting based on the popularity of the candidate. Some people I know choose candidates based on which candidate has the most support in the surrounding community. They just follow the people's choices without finding out about the programs promoted by the candidates they choose.
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