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Re: I bought an encyclopedia

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> Thinking back, I'm not sure why the library did not have an encyclopedia... Different libraries often have very different collections, depending on the community they're serving. A university library might have 10 copies of the same undergraduate introductory physics textbook, a copy of a few dozen other undergraduate introductory physics textbooks, and a load of more advanced texts in the same area. A community li…

USA is deeply different. Looks like antigeneralizationism. I live in Spain and I lived in Limerick and libraries are mostly similar, both university and municipal ones.

Do your municipal libraries carry journals? I can't imagine how that works.

In Canada, neighborhood libraries are a tiny fraction of the size of university research libraries, so they can't possibly carry anything remotely approximating the content of a university research library.

We do have a central public library, with perhaps a million odd books, but is not a replacement for research library in any sense, and isn't intended to be one. Compare that to the library in my alma mater university which contained about 2.5 million books.

For what it's worth, for most of my life, I've had the option of visiting my local university library so that I could crawl through the shelves looking for particular journal articles, or searching through the 3 feet of shelves on other side of a relevant book that I found in the card stacks. Sadly, that's no longer the case. The vast majority of content in modern university libraries is now available only in digital form, accessible through terminals that are not usable by members of the public, which provide access to otherwise-paywalled journals. And the last time I visited my local university library, they no longer allowed members of the general public to enter. For most of the my lifetime, one of the conditions of government funding for university libraries was that they had to provide at least limited access to the general public. I'm not sure what happened.

Thankfully, there are now other ways to access research material. Pre-prints are often available, and open-access journals are increasingly prevalent. And for those that are desperate, there are, of course, various dubiously legal sources.

Re: I bought an encyclopedia

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This article is mostly fluff. There's garbage in encyclopaedias as well and little possibility of finding errata. It also teaches the kids that you should trust one canonical source of information, which is bad. Teach your kids critical thinking instead.

> It also teaches the kids that you should trust one canonical source of information, which is bad. And teaching the kids to trust the source that cannot give them facts and changes the answer every time you ask the same question is good?

Teaching kids to run down citations when they need more detailed information more than makes up for possible shortcomings of Wikipedia (if any, in actual practice). The greatest value of Wikipedia is that it is a launching point. That wasn't an option with our family copy of the World Book Encyclopedia. And Brittanica isn't really any better.

Re: I bought an encyclopedia

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Would be nice if the Encyclopedia was detailed enough to be able to re-build the grid ;)

I have a two or three volume encyclopaedia-like work from the XIX that, as far as I can tell, was directed to factory owners. Its articles cover things like roofing that lets in natural light, how best to build private rail spurs into your factory, or even cheap and cheerful ways to provide worker housing in your company town, etc. etc.

Supplement that with The Chemical Rubber Company Standard Mathematical Tables and Formulas, for when we don't even have digital computers! We shall rise again!

Re: I bought an encyclopedia

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For the reasons given in the article, the author and readers here who are convinced might also consider getting a copy of Pocket Ref. https://sequoiapublishing.com/product/pocket-ref/ > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_Ref >

Or, for more rigor and math, consider the CRC Handbook:

https://www.routledge.com/CRC-Handbook-of-Chemistry-and-Phys...

Re: I bought an encyclopedia

#65

Similarly, I purchased a copy of "Bosch Automotive Handbook" [1]. For $65 it will literally walk you through every component of a vehicle, from the metals required, the fuel, to the electronics. It's presence on my bookshelf is meant to be aspirational. https://www.sae.org/publications/books/content/bosch10/

Thanks! Looks like a great book, and it's on libgen (11E). However, the English is positively atrocious. The next edition would be wise to invest in a competent editor. Very first page:

The International Convention on Road Signs and Signals [1] defines a motor or power-driven vehicle as a self-propelled road vehicle. Rail-borne vehicles and country-specifically mopeds which are not treated as motorcycles are exceptions. A second definition in this convention limits the term motor vehicle to those vehicles which are used for carrying persons or goods or for drawing on the road vehicles used for the carriage or persons or goods.

"Country-specifically" -> "jurisdiction-specific definitions of mopeds".

"in this convention" -> "in the convention"

"the term motor vehicle" -> "the term 'motor vehicle'"

The final sentence makes no sense to me and is certainly missing a comma.

Re: I bought an encyclopedia

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If you're looking to be inspired to take the plunge into car repair, check out M359 Restorations YouTube channel[0]. It's a one-man shop in Frankfurt that specializes in BMW restorations. It's a good look into what it takes to do projects like this well: the tools, the space, the knowledge of the secondary market and parts suppliers, and when/how to repair a component rather than buying a new one. He does use repair…

M359 Restorations is an absolutely fantastic channel, arguably the best car restoration channel on YouTube. I also recommend ChrisFix, especially for new DIY driveway mechanics as the videos tend to be more general tutorials using hand tools (e.g. "how to do an oil change", "how to replace brake discs + pads"). https://www.youtube.com/@chrisfix/videos

I’m a fan of Vice Grip Garage for the everyday person. He routinely arrives to a broken down vehicle, performs on-site diagnostics and repairs, and then attempts to drive the vehicle 600+ miles back to his workshop. He has a hilarious wit and is quite knowledgeable, and he doesn’t really use fancy tools, techniques, or terminology, so it’s quite approachable and understandable for non-experts.

https://www.youtube.com/@vicegripgarage

Re: I bought an encyclopedia

#67
> For one thing, my kids were increasingly being asked to "do research" for their school projects. As far as I could tell, this meant just Googling materials, copying and pasting what they found, stealing photos on the internet, and generally neither digesting nor evaluating anything that popped up in search results.

The degree to which my children's teachers actively don't care about this is hard to overstate. I was able to trivially catch this by googling phrases from papers my daughter had "written" and when I showed it to her English teacher the response was roughly: "Yeah, it sucks that all kids are doing that these days."

Saw the same daughter doing homework by using C-f to search the textbook for keywords in the question and pasting the answer. Sometimes this yielded nonsensical answers because the keywords appeared in multiple places. She got a high A in that class (including perfect scores on the homework).

Re: I bought an encyclopedia

#69
> (They are still expensive, so I recommend second-hand purchases. Many libraries still refresh their volumes every few years, putting older ones up on eBay).

If you actually can't afford one, I wholeheartedly endorse this. But if you can afford a new set, please buy a new set. They only still print them because a minimum number of people buy them new. I can't imagine this will last forever, so, support World Book.

https://www.worldbook.com/encyclopedias.aspx

The previous years set is often discounted, if the full price is a little too much for you.

Re: I bought an encyclopedia

#70
post #5

There's a very implicit assumption in this text that the encyclopedia you buy in 2024 does NOT contain all sorts of AI-generated stuff. Not sure I have that much faith in the world anymore to trust that to be true.

Encyclopedias that have built their reputation on being written by subject matter experts should hopefully be free of AI text.
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