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OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by tmpz22 »

michaelt wrote: post #47
behnamoh wrote: post #9

Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?

Oracle's database is actually pretty good, if price is no object and you've got a team of competent DBAs looking after it, who'll lock you out of most of the footguns. Particularly a few decades ago, when MySQL's query planning was very basic. And sure, once you're locked in they'll jack the price up more and more every year - or worse, your business will grow and the bosses will try to control costs by not licensing…

If you have a team of competent DBAs are you going to do well with most workloads on most RDBMS?

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by Havoc »

cjk2 wrote: post #13
crowcroft wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found Oracle's free tier quite generous. I guess OpenAI does as well.

It's sort of like a crack dealer's free tier. You know it's going to end miserably but you just can't help yourself.

Mines been running fine for years now

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by joshstrange »

behnamoh wrote: post #9

Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?

Because they get wined and dined? Because the salesperson made unreasonable promises? Because the people making the decisions are completely disconnected from the people that have to work with what they purchase?

My last company got tricked into buying Oracle DB servers, it was going to “solve all our problems”. Yeah, the moron who pushed for going with Oracle fucked off to screw over some other company and we were left with 2 paperweights. Not before wasting months of dev time to adapt our application code to work with Oracle’s laughable limitations. A few years later I think the production engineers turned them into a NAS so they did more than just collect dust.

I wouldn’t take free servers from Oracle (physical or in the cloud).

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by 29athrowaway »

Someone1234 wrote: post #4

Oracle Cloud is a bad product and I wouldn't recommend. I'm guessing Oracle practically gifted OpenAI compute to make this possible and that this announcement is the whole purpose (i.e. "look at us, we're equal to AWS/Azure!!! OpenAI runs here!!!"). Oracle and Google Cloud have been doing this stuff constantly .

They just happen to have many GPUs and a SLA, the rest doesn't matter.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by pryelluw »

cjk2 wrote: post #13
crowcroft wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found Oracle's free tier quite generous. I guess OpenAI does as well.

It's sort of like a crack dealer's free tier. You know it's going to end miserably but you just can't help yourself.

How much crack do you do a day?

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by jml78 »

crowcroft wrote: post #10
Someone1234 wrote: post #4

Oracle Cloud is a bad product and I wouldn't recommend. I'm guessing Oracle practically gifted OpenAI compute to make this possible and that this announcement is the whole purpose (i.e. "look at us, we're equal to AWS/Azure!!! OpenAI runs here!!!"). Oracle and Google Cloud have been doing this stuff constantly .

I've found Oracle's free tier quite generous. I guess OpenAI does as well.

I used their free tier. Didn’t meet my needs. Tried to delete my account. It fails to delete my tenent, can’t talk to support because it is free tier. Email support refused to help. Told me to pay to talk to support. So they want me to pay so I can have them delete my account.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by wmf »

virtuosarmo wrote: post #52

On their conference call tonight, Larry Ellison indicated Oracle will be building a dedicated data center for OpenAI to use for training, with 1 GW of power, and its own power plant and DLC. Stocked with newest NVIDIA chips.

Why would OpenAI not build their own data center?

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by mardifoufs »

Someone1234 wrote: post #4

Oracle Cloud is a bad product and I wouldn't recommend. I'm guessing Oracle practically gifted OpenAI compute to make this possible and that this announcement is the whole purpose (i.e. "look at us, we're equal to AWS/Azure!!! OpenAI runs here!!!"). Oracle and Google Cloud have been doing this stuff constantly .

What's bad about their cloud product? Also, GCP is way better than azure, so it's not a question of equality.
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