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The Light Phone III

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Re: The Light Phone III

#61

Are these hackable? If I recall correctly v1 and 2 were completely closed, not sure though.

In my opinion, not having an open platform and open-source code is completely at odds with "respecting the user" and whatever nice stuff they write on their website.

Open up or shut up.

Re: The Light Phone III

#62

I'd buy this purely to support a company making phones held together with screws. Oh how I long and wish that my phone had screws. This glued-shut brittle glass box with a puffy time bomb inside makes me sad. It's sad that the concept of a phone with screws makes me so happy.

Have you looked into the Fairphone? https://shop.fairphone.com/fairphone-5

Re: The Light Phone III

#63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's no way to remove most bundled software on a phone (Android, ios)

There is usually a way to hide it and if you don't use them you should not get any (or at least not many) notifications. For more free android phones you can also absolutely remove them or load a distro that does not include them at all. I'm very confident that I could recreate a similar enough experience on iOS or "normal" android at a similar price-point.

Yeah this is the thing that confuses me about this, it's priced the same as some mid-range smartphones. It seems like you're paying a significant premium to have the control over which apps you can use strictly enforced. If that's the only way you can do it and people are willing to pay, then I guess fair enough?

Re: The Light Phone III

#64
I've been following Light since their first model, and I do like the idea of a minimalist phone. But considering it would have to be my second phone, used outside of work, at $800 it's very hard to see how they expect to make a dent with this.

Edit: They should have added Signal.

Re: The Light Phone III

#65

I'd buy this purely to support a company making phones held together with screws. Oh how I long and wish that my phone had screws. This glued-shut brittle glass box with a puffy time bomb inside makes me sad. It's sad that the concept of a phone with screws makes me so happy.

It’s all about durability. For example, that phone is not going to be up to the standard of an iPhone when it comes to water resistance. What’s better constantly being able to fix your own phone or never needing to fix your phone. It is a spectrum, but I think for environmental and most consumer reasons, one wants it to be more towards the later.

Dropping the phone in water is a possibility, the battery becoming useless is a certainty. Repairability is important.

The Samsung S5 had a removable back with a silicone seal, this was one of the first widely available water resistant phones. I'm sure they could come up with an even better version now if they wanted to. Glueing it shut is not a requirement for water resistance.

Drop this plastic phone onto concrete, drop a glass iPhone onto concrete. Phone cases should not need to exist, nor be as ubiquitous as they are - they are band-aids on bad durability.

You could probably bend this thing easier than an iPhone, I don't know how much of a metal frame is in this one, but they could add one make it as sturdy. Screws do not preclude this.

It's not all about durability. Screws have a minimal impact on durability compared to materials. It's about a sleek design for sales, with the added benefit of planned obsolescence.

Sorry, I don't buy your argument at all.

Re: The Light Phone III

#66
I did not find anything about their software. Is it open source? Is there an SDK? Can I use WhatsApp / Telegram / Signal?

How can I develop my own apps?

For me this is currently a hard no, because even though I like the UX, I will not buy a closed software product, as even Android is modable.

Re: The Light Phone III

#67

Shipping Jan 2025, normally $799 retail (does not include tax or shipping). For a phone that's almost certainly running Android under the hood, not having the ability to install Signal or Messenger or anything else just makes it dead on arrival imho.

> install Signal or Messenger or anything else just makes it dead on arrival imho. ? , that’s literally the selling point, that you cant install those things in this phone duh. Besides, they know what they are doing, they sell pretty well too. They churn out enough of these each year, that foxconn handles their manufacturing for this unit. They must be selling decent numbers in that case.

There is a difference between minimalism and handicapping. If your device is too handicapped I won’t pay $800 for it.

Re: The Light Phone III

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's no way to remove most bundled software on a phone (Android, ios)

There is usually a way to hide it and if you don't use them you should not get any (or at least not many) notifications. For more free android phones you can also absolutely remove them or load a distro that does not include them at all. I'm very confident that I could recreate a similar enough experience on iOS or "normal" android at a similar price-point.

people on this forum thinking the problem with Samsung installing Facebook in a way you can't disable is only a problem because of seeing the icon or receiving notifications... if the tech elite is that alienated and lame i think it's all over

Re: The Light Phone III

#69
post #62

I'd buy this purely to support a company making phones held together with screws. Oh how I long and wish that my phone had screws. This glued-shut brittle glass box with a puffy time bomb inside makes me sad. It's sad that the concept of a phone with screws makes me so happy.

Have you looked into the Fairphone? https://shop.fairphone.com/fairphone-5

Really wish they worked in the US.

Re: The Light Phone III

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s all about durability. For example, that phone is not going to be up to the standard of an iPhone when it comes to water resistance. What’s better constantly being able to fix your own phone or never needing to fix your phone. It is a spectrum, but I think for environmental and most consumer reasons, one wants it to be more towards the later.

Dropping the phone in water is a possibility, the battery becoming useless is a certainty. Repairability is important. The Samsung S5 had a removable back with a silicone seal, this was one of the first widely available water resistant phones. I'm sure they could come up with an even better version now if they wanted to. Glueing it shut is not a requirement for water resistance. Drop this plastic phone onto concrete,…

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