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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#61

This is welcome. Central password management really should be an OS feature. Drives me crazy that every browser I use has a different credentials store and sync service.

Why do you have the need to use different browsers? Use the one you like on all your devices is easy.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#63

I don’t quite understand how this will be different from what built in iPhone password manager. Something I’d really like: let my iPhone act as a Bluetooth (obviously encryption will be necessary!) or USB keyboard, and have it hold my passwords/type them. That way I could keep my passwords all in one place, and manage them locally. Currently I use keepass when not on iOS, which is fine, but I don’t really want to hav…

The offline device with a plugin usb keyboard that "types" in your username and password is exactly what i've wanted forever. There are some devices people have made and posted online. I made a POC with an old android phone once but never got past that stage. I investigated the bluetooth encryption and it didn't really seem up to the task. You could create a dongle that lived on wifi though that would do the same.

I think it depends on the password, Bluetooth encryption would probably be fine for, like, my forums passwords. If anyone within, like, 50 feet of me right now wants to break into my Hackernews account… IDK, my dog does seem like a real jerk actually, so if I make any dumb posts let’s assume that she’s stolen my passwords.

A dedicated device would be nice and, actually, keeping your passwords on something that never even has to touch the internet would be ideal. But my phone already has a nice big touchscreen to make it easier to pick a password. Reusing an old device could work but that’s limited.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#64

It's good to see that 1Password is staying several steps ahead here to avoid being "Sherlocked" by Apple. The new SSH key manager feature is an example of something Apple's unlikely to address for years, if ever. https://developer.1password.com/docs/ssh/manage-keys/

I really tried to like their new non-native app, and if it works well I could probably live with it, but it was so buggy and glitchy, even to the point where browser auto-fill often just... wouldn't. That's a basic feature. I switched to iCloud Passwords a few months ago and I'm very happy with the product. Looks like this Passwords app is a nice new GUI over the top of that same database.

Same here. I switched from 1P to Passwords a while back, then switched back when I got a free 1P account from my job. I'd already started thinking about returning to Passwords, though. Much as I wish I could love 1Password, the current app is a mess. I have a Mac Studio without Touch ID and the "unlock with Apple Watch" feature almost never works. They also refuse to allow unlocking with YubiKeys (see https://www.reddit.com/r/1Password/comments/ttt2m0/yubikey_i...) for reasons I consider specious.

1P has some wonderful work-oriented features we use constantly. I don't like the direction it's going for personal stuff.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#65

I don’t quite understand how this will be different from what built in iPhone password manager. Something I’d really like: let my iPhone act as a Bluetooth (obviously encryption will be necessary!) or USB keyboard, and have it hold my passwords/type them. That way I could keep my passwords all in one place, and manage them locally. Currently I use keepass when not on iOS, which is fine, but I don’t really want to hav…

I don't have a full answer for you, but you've hit on the major problem with all client-side PWMs.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#66

It's good to see that 1Password is staying several steps ahead here to avoid being "Sherlocked" by Apple. The new SSH key manager feature is an example of something Apple's unlikely to address for years, if ever. https://developer.1password.com/docs/ssh/manage-keys/

1password is too expensive when compared to Bitwarden or Keeper.

It's almost double the price per user so my company switched to Bitwarden.

We're a Mac shop and if Apple can make it even more affordable then we would definitely consider switching again.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#67
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they are the most popular password manager

Maybe once they were, but they suck compared to 1password. I've moved and never looking back.

Bitwarden here, and certainly a lot of people have moved, but we’re anecdotes. What’s the data say?

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#69

Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. Apple devices already basically have a password manager, the main reason more people don't use it it is because it doesnt also work on android or windows, not because it's not a standalone app called Passwords.

They did say there was a windows client in the keynote.
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