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Re: Högertrafikomläggningen

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Post by edb_123 »

gerikson wrote: post #28
matsemann wrote: post #7

One surprising (after we got a ticket..) thing about parking laws in Sweden is that you're also only allowed to park on the right side of the road / with the car in the direction of the traffic. This has the benefit of that when you're leaving the street parking, you are sitting close to the lane and can look behind you for coming cars and only cross one lane. Compared to parking on the "wrong" side, where you're sit…

As a Swede it amazes me that some countries allow parking "in the wrong direction". I've never even thought about it, and I don't know if it's a written rule (I'm sure it is, just it;s been a long time since I got my license).

You don't have to go further than Norway to be allowed to park on both sides of the street (unless indicated otherwise by signs) as well as park in both directions.

I believe many Norwegians have received parking tickets when visiting Sweden because if this difference. I wasn't aware of this myself until recently.

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Post by matsemann »

noduerme wrote: post #40
matsemann wrote: post #7

One surprising (after we got a ticket..) thing about parking laws in Sweden is that you're also only allowed to park on the right side of the road / with the car in the direction of the traffic. This has the benefit of that when you're leaving the street parking, you are sitting close to the lane and can look behind you for coming cars and only cross one lane. Compared to parking on the "wrong" side, where you're sit…

Where do you live?! You couldn't park facing the wrong way in any big city in America, either. Maybe on small residential streets it's not always enforced.

Norway. It might be more common than I anticipate, just weird that we've been parking in Sweden for decades not knowing this and never having received a ticket. I guess it has helped that it until a few years ago was quite hard to enforce tickets on foreign cars, so maybe they just skipped us and thus we never learned our lesson.

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Post by beardyw »

jiehong wrote: post #60
beardyw wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Driving on the right More people in India drive on the left than North America and Europe put together.

China drives on the right ;)

I know more drive on the right than left. I was just pointing out that it is not as ubiquitous as many believe.

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Post by hnarn »

Arnt wrote: post #57

I cannot resist… I have to tell… when they did it, they had non-stop media coverage, as much as could possibly be done. An hour or two after traffic switched, TV broadcast from Svinesund, the biggest of the road crossings to Norway, and a major route for road haulage, and a reporter said something like "here we have the driver of a Norwegian 18-wheeler, . Well, , what do think of the big reform?" Norwegian, looking a…

This almost sounds like a sketch since Sweden has “Norway jokes” where the punchline is consistently how dumb Norwegians are — a structure that I’m sure is mirrored in Norway and similarly in other countries (england/scotland, france/belgium maybe?)

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Post by jogjayr »

purple-leafy wrote: post #9
mg wrote: post #2

Maybe the world should standardize on: Driving on the right Speaking English The metric system The 2024-06-09 date format The Celsius scale The 24-hour clock

> Driving on the right No thanks > 2024-06-09 date format That doesnt infer what you want. Are you saying you want YYYY-MM-DD or YYYY-DD-MM

> YYYY-DD-MM

Some people just want to watch the world burn

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Post by Novosell »

checkyoursudo wrote: post #48
Novosell wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you trying to make a point or..? It's a bit unclear. People can have multiple languages they're native in, that doesn't mean we should try to replace every language with English.

> that doesn't mean we should try to replace every language with English Where did I say that everyone should speak only English? I do not care what language people speak. > Are you trying to make a point or..? Why are you being unkind? Or hostile, or whatever this is? I was asking a question. I understand that people think they will lose something if they speak a different language. My native language is not the sam…

Language and culture go hand in hand. I don't understand how you've learnt 1 fluently and 3 passably and are deemingly completely missing this aspect to it. So to standardize language is to attempt to standardize culture which I would imagine we don't wanna do, right?

And it doesn't matter what your ancestors spoke, of course. But it does matter what those around you speak, now. Neither the person you originally responded to or me have mentioned ancestors.

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Post by lb1lf »

hnarn wrote: post #64
Arnt wrote: post #57

I cannot resist… I have to tell… when they did it, they had non-stop media coverage, as much as could possibly be done. An hour or two after traffic switched, TV broadcast from Svinesund, the biggest of the road crossings to Norway, and a major route for road haulage, and a reporter said something like "here we have the driver of a Norwegian 18-wheeler, . Well, , what do think of the big reform?" Norwegian, looking a…

This almost sounds like a sketch since Sweden has “Norway jokes” where the punchline is consistently how dumb Norwegians are — a structure that I’m sure is mirrored in Norway and similarly in other countries (england/scotland, france/belgium maybe?)

Oh yes.

In Norway we have the exact same jokes about the Swedes.

One quip which did the rounds in the papers prior to the Swedes starting to drive on the right was that they would perform the switch in several phases - first heavy traffic, then cars a month later...

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Post by nkozyra »

user20180120 wrote: post #53

Making everyone speak English should not happen! We need to understand that the language you are able to think in - limits your thinking. Some languages have things you cannot translate into English. These non translateable concepts do not exist in the Western world view point.

I'm curious about examples. I know many languages do not have word::word translations, but a concept that cannot be translated -- even if it needs a full sentence, is a very different thing.

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Post by kulhur »

purple-leafy wrote: post #9
mg wrote: post #2

Maybe the world should standardize on: Driving on the right Speaking English The metric system The 2024-06-09 date format The Celsius scale The 24-hour clock

> Driving on the right No thanks > 2024-06-09 date format That doesnt infer what you want. Are you saying you want YYYY-MM-DD or YYYY-DD-MM

Just use uppercase numbers for the month and lowercase for the day. That way you will always know which is more significant without any prior knowledge of how the order of the digits in decimal numbers work.
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