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Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Post by pixxel »

llmblockchain wrote: post #47
sed3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla is in bed with Google. I use brave because: * it has reasonable way of funding, crypto may suck, but it is believable they will not sell my data * anonymous bookmark sync with multiple profiles. With Chrome and Firefox I have to sign up for each sync. * Chrome based debug tools * It is usable without any plugins. In some environments I do not want to install some questionable plugins, that may change ownershi…

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> Brave was co-founded by a person that is against same-sex marriage

Is he throwing gays off of buildings, or does he hold a popular belief on marriage and procreation?

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Post by troyvit »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #59
troyvit wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Advertising needs to be purged, not embraced. I agree, but most people also also feel that content should be free. If content is free, but not ad supported, who pays the people to create it?

Why is it that this community of innovators can’t fathom other ways to fund cool things besides the false dichotomy of customer pays vs we shove ads down customer throat? Some services seem like facebook and reddit seem ripe for a nonprofit model to use an example that doesn’t require any innovation. Maybe because y’all are focused on winning big with your options? Maybe that’s the root cause of enshitification?

This innovator actually works for a nonprofit and guess what -- people don't want to pay for news, and those who did at one time are giving much less.[1]

There are a few nonprofit models for social media, and they aren't making a dent in the big monsters. As far as I'm concerned, social media is where ads belong, but maybe that's because I despise it.

The nonprofit model for content, my wheelhouse, is struggling mightily with this issue, but it all comes down to getting donations, government funding, or getting people to work for free. Even this list of "non-reformist reforms"[2] comes down to getting money from the government or consolidating into media co-ops. Public radio stations get a small amount of government funding as you might know, but a journalistic enterprise beholden to its government is probably actually worse than being beholden to advertisers.

So, as a member of this community of innovators, what are your suggestions?

[1] https://logan-gentry.medium.com/giving-was-down-in-2023-but-...

[2] https://lpeproject.org/blog/taking-media-out-of-the-market/

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Post by llmblockchain »

pixxel wrote: post #61
llmblockchain wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Brave was co-founded by a person that is against same-sex marriage Is he throwing gays off of buildings, or does he hold a popular belief on marriage and procreation?

You'd have to ask him. He financially supported campaigns against it, so he's willing to put his money where his beliefs are. I have no idea how many gays he has tossed.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Post by rchaud »

pleone wrote: post #14

I'm the only one wondering why that should be a (good) news? I mean: are the user rewarded for the attention (the logic behind BAT) or it's just another search engine with another search ads ? Mine is an honest question, not a complaining.

Been using Brave Android since 2017, have never used BAT or whatever "value-add" bloatware they've offered. It can be disabled from the menu, two taps max.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Post by rchaud »

geodel wrote: post #49

This is great news. I hope they will be able to beat Google in Ad game. Customers have spoken, they need ads, they want ads and they love ads. I mean thats the reason all streaming service are now pushing ads after years claiming the ad-free viewing is superior experience. They are admitting to the fact people love 30 min show end up in one hour because of ads. Adding additional ads is future I am looking forward to.

American capitalism is structured such that the disrupters that are anointed to take on the incumbent monopolist are all just temporarily embarrassed monopolists themselves.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Post by wubrr »

johnsea wrote: post #32
wubrr wrote: post #21

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I use it (there are always trade-offs). It's by far the best and most convenient browser for me, I run it on all my devices. What are you using instead?

Firefox, Chrome. Much faster, you can actually block ads with ublock, etc.

What is the benefit of Brave over those?

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Post by wubrr »

sed3 wrote: post #44
hgyjnbdet wrote: post #19

Why would you even use brave? You want to view advertisements just use Chrome. If you don't there's Firefox and ublock origin.

Mozilla is in bed with Google. I use brave because: * it has reasonable way of funding, crypto may suck, but it is believable they will not sell my data * anonymous bookmark sync with multiple profiles. With Chrome and Firefox I have to sign up for each sync. * Chrome based debug tools * It is usable without any plugins. In some environments I do not want to install some questionable plugins, that may change ownershi…

> it has reasonable way of funding, crypto may suck, but it is believable they will not sell my data

You can rest assured that Brave absolutely will and does sell your data.

> anonymous bookmark sync with multiple profiles. With Chrome and Firefox I have to sign up for each sync.

Nothing at all anonymous about it, firstly. Secondly, you can import/export bookmarks from Firefox and Chrome and do an actual 'anonymous' sync that way.

> Chrome based debug tools

Like.... chrome has?

> It is usable without any plugins. In some environments I do not want to install some questionable plugins, that may change ownership anytime! (It is already named "Ublock Origin", ownership already changed )

No it's not. It's completely unusable if you actually don't want ads.

> Proprietary Video Codecs support out of the box on Linux. Some distros do not have it, and I do not want to enable community repos.

The only reason prop codec implementations are not supported in some (not most) repos is because of licensing/OSS policy... which would equally apply to Brave within those same repos.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Post by wubrr »

LightHugger wrote: post #35
hgyjnbdet wrote: post #19

Why would you even use brave? You want to view advertisements just use Chrome. If you don't there's Firefox and ublock origin.

Chrome is heavy spyware that scans your whole PC by default under the guise of "chrome is an antivirus now". Chrome tracking data is used for google's advertising wing and they lied about it extensively, which was obvious to many but now there's proof because of the recent leak. Brave does not do this. Pretty much without exception, anyone using chrome is better served by using brave. It doesnt mean brave is perfect…

Holding up Brave as some sort of privacy-preserving, ad-blocking replacement to Chrome is a complete joke and 100% untrue.
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