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Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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> use so much copyright content though It's called fair use. They are static shots and not even close to the magical "8 seconds" rule. They are providing dramatic examples that many people are familiar with. Showing the before/after of something your mom shot means nothing to people. Showing extremely famous examples immediately lets people know what is possible and to what extent. I see nothing wrong with any of wha…

Fair use gets tricky when you intermix it like this. Though I must first call out that there’s no actual 8 second rule. Even with fair use, it’s still good form to attribute it. But more importantly , those images are intermixed among product clips/videos which can fall on the other side of fair use because it may give the impression that they are associated with the product. That can be a tight line to walk and so i…

Notice the quotes around the "8 seconds" rule. It's not a rule, but that's what it is known as. I mainly know it from the audio world, but it was a common theme/trope/meme in radio shows about using music without royalties.

Whether or not it's described in the text of copyright law, it is a common concept people are familiar.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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That lux camera company is a very Apple heavy shop and they seem to only make apps that cost 10-20 dollars plus. Why would they waste time on android when a large corpus of their skills and codebase are already probably in ObjC and Swift programmed against many of Apple's iOS frameworks? To sell a $20 camera app to android users who are pretty much guaranteed to not buy it? Total waste of time to bring software like…

You can just say what you want to say: Android users are poor.

Wow, thats a leap and for the record you said they are poor not me.

I'm not saying anything that the sales numbers don't already say (app sales, subscriptions, click through rates, anything): Android users just don't buy as much stuff with their phones, it doesn't mean they're poor it just means they don't like to click pay through the hamster's wheel of mobile purchases as much as iOS users.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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> With AutoMotion, Kino automatically choses the best exposure settings for cinematic motion blur. The part I've italicized above should be "chooses". Great looking app though!

It's not the only typo, either (not a big deal, but I noticed it too)

> For one, there are artists who sculpts the contrast and color

emphasis mine

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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This is great! Just yesterday I was looking for a way to get a daylight 5500k white balance on videos the same way I do in Halide but it seems there’s no way to do that in the built in camera app.

I know you can “lock white balance” but it is still nudging it towards neutral before locking.

Unfortunately there’s no white balance option in Kino, but I already love its Auto Motion and manual focus. Maybe you’d be open to adding a white balance control too?

I also think it would make sense to have an option to persist the chosen white balance even after the app is quit. Same on Halide. I prefer “daylight” on all my shots [1], but I have to switch from AWB every time.

Sorry for the premature feature request, Kino is awesome anyway, the UI is so so good! and thank you for launching it with 50% off!

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPPa_8Z13o

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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"one simple principle: make good products and charge money for them." Thank you for the one-time purchase option. It's a win already on today's software world.

I give it 2 years before they have regressed to a subscription model.

Their other apps are much older than 2 years and still have a buy-once model. This company has a good track record. (There is a subscription for some long-running services if I'm not mistaken.)

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Fair use gets tricky when you intermix it like this. Though I must first call out that there’s no actual 8 second rule. Even with fair use, it’s still good form to attribute it. But more importantly , those images are intermixed among product clips/videos which can fall on the other side of fair use because it may give the impression that they are associated with the product. That can be a tight line to walk and so i…

Notice the quotes around the "8 seconds" rule. It's not a rule, but that's what it is known as. I mainly know it from the audio world, but it was a common theme/trope/meme in radio shows about using music without royalties. Whether or not it's described in the text of copyright law, it is a common concept people are familiar.

Nitpickiest of nits: given your intended description, the quotes should be around “rule” not “8 second”. When around “rule”, that implies it’s not really a rule. When around “8 second” it implies that it’s not 8 seconds exactly or it’s what it’s colloquially called, but it would still be a rule.

Regardless, the fair use laws are very loose and tend to vary depending on the medium type and association with product.

Anyway , I get what you’re saying but given it’s part of a product page, it should at the very least, call out that they’re illustrative and not actually associated.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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"Opening a LUT file directly from an app will give you an option to open in Kino...even works in Messages!" - Anyone able to test how tapping on a .cube in iMessages opens in Kino? Last time I tried to code something like this, Messages is the holdout in not working properly. This StackOverflow I found requires a QuickLook extension: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22826978/custom-extensio... So does Kino open directly or is there 2 taps to open from iMessage?

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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I don't know much about the company and never used their products, but this article is such a delicious read: https://www.lux.camera/orion-from-idea-to-launch-in-45-days/ Really tells how much they care about their craft

Oh man, I wish the app was available on the iphone 15 pro too. I keep holding off buying that external HDMI monitor for the A7SIII, and that might be just the solution to keep the camera bag small...
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