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Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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Post by troyvit »

BrenBarn wrote: post #28
danpalmer wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personal (not work related opinion): This basically can’t happen with things like DMA and GDPR. DMA in particular means you can’t share data across “products” without explicit consent. So you could for example collect websites that don’t work for the purposes of improving Chrome, but not then share that with the Ads/Search orgs for personalisation or targeting, as far as I understand the legislation. Personal opinion…

The thing is that preventing "sharing" isn't sufficient. People who are concerned about privacy don't want any such data collected or stored in the first place, ever. The implicit "sharing" of my data with Google (or whatever company) is a problem in itself. Regardless of how "seriously" Google (or whatever company) takes it, for a lot of the data I don't want them to ever have it in the first place.

> The thing is that preventing "sharing" isn't sufficient.

Exactly this. It doesn't matter that google doesn't "share" what they gather if they own so many conversion funnels from top to bottom anyway.

Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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Post by thisisit »

jasonsb wrote: post #13
JSDevOps wrote: post #12

Seriously considering switching back to Firefox after all these years.

What's stopping you? I use both browsers and I see no reason why someone would pick Chrome over Firefox at this point in time.

for now the seamless extension switching using Extensity. I am yet to find an extension on Firefox which can deliver this functionality.

Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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Post by kernal »

mind-blight wrote: post #53
JSDevOps wrote: post #12

Seriously considering switching back to Firefox after all these years.

I've been using Firefox since Chrome forced users to sign in to the browser with their Google account, and I'm quite happy. The only time it's a problem is when a site detects Firefox and won't display unlocked your using chrome or IE. I've only seen that a couple of times in the years since I switched back

How did Chrome force you to log in? I've been using it signed out for the longest time.

Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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Post by Frank2312 »

mind-blight wrote: post #53
JSDevOps wrote: post #12

Seriously considering switching back to Firefox after all these years.

I've been using Firefox since Chrome forced users to sign in to the browser with their Google account, and I'm quite happy. The only time it's a problem is when a site detects Firefox and won't display unlocked your using chrome or IE. I've only seen that a couple of times in the years since I switched back

Even in that case,there are Firefox extensions to change your user agent. Suddenly the app requesting Chrome/Edge works perfectly, even though we are running in Firefox.

Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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Post by mind-blight »

kernal wrote: post #65
mind-blight wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Firefox since Chrome forced users to sign in to the browser with their Google account, and I'm quite happy. The only time it's a problem is when a site detects Firefox and won't display unlocked your using chrome or IE. I've only seen that a couple of times in the years since I switched back

How did Chrome force you to log in? I've been using it signed out for the longest time.

Back in 2018, Chrome released an update that automatically logged users into the browser if they'd logged into a google. It was done silently and automatically, and it was a pain to log out of. They faced a ton of backlash (https://www.pcmag.com/news/google-faces-privacy-backlash-ove...) and rolled the feature back, but that was the tipping point for me. I've been a happy Firefox user since

Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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Post by throwaway743 »

danpalmer wrote: post #37
BrenBarn wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is that preventing "sharing" isn't sufficient. People who are concerned about privacy don't want any such data collected or stored in the first place, ever. The implicit "sharing" of my data with Google (or whatever company) is a problem in itself. Regardless of how "seriously" Google (or whatever company) takes it, for a lot of the data I don't want them to ever have it in the first place.

This is a fair position to take, but assuming good faith all round, one that I think will typically be a minority. If you ask a user if they're willing to share crash reports only to improve the reliability of the software, I'd bet most people would be ok with this. In fact it's sufficiently reasonable that I believe GDPR allows this to be opt-out, something I broadly agree with. I do think opt-outs should be availab…

> If you ask a user if they're willing to share crash reports only to improve the reliability of the software, I'd bet most people would be ok with this.

You do realize the majority of people are completely oblivious as to why privacy matters as it relates to their data collection.

It's not that they're willing to do anything. It's that they're passive/apathetic when faced with vague prompts telling them about a matter they don't have insight on, after being bombarded by terms of service agreements, cookie pop ups, etc for years and years.

> This is a fair position to take, but assuming good faith all round, one that I think will typically be a minority.

If they were aware of privacy implications / exactly what's being collected on them and how that data is being used, then it's safe to say that they'd be the majority. Can't blame them for not taking the time to read into the matter either, as most outside of tech are wrapped up with a million other hostilities in their daily lives.

Defend it all you want, but it's just one more unethical thing screwing people over.

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