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Re: Windows Returns

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Post by abrookewood »

integricho wrote: post #12

I wonder what route existing Windows power users should take after Windows 10 support ends next year.. I don't care about these features at all, I just need a Windows OS, bare, where I can install the tools I need, not what Microsoft thinks I need, and so it also serves as a decent, performant gaming PC. I know for the first point Linux is my obvious choice, which is totally fine, but gaming support on Linux never li…

The only thing that kept me on Windows on my personal machine was gaming and the Steam Deck has pretty much solved that. I've been running Kubuntu for ~10 months and can't think of anything I really miss.

That's not to say that there aren't issues (I rushed the Nvidia drivers and that resulted in a blank screen), but I'm definitely less annoyed - no more constantly trying to get rid of OneDrive only for it to re-appear, no more removing apps that I never asked for etc

Re: Windows Returns

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Post by mcswell »

hakfoo wrote: post #43
glimshe wrote: post #34

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I really don't understand the Windows 11 hysteria. As a long time Windows user, I did wait for Windows 11 to support the old taskbar style before upgrading, but now that it does... It's basically Windows 10 with a few new useful bells and whistles and a bunch of things that I don't care about but are trivially turned off. I'm yet to see the huge problems people talk about after using it daily for months - for me, at…

The taskbar change is a symbolic thing. The company that spent decades pushing "we don't break the customer's workflow" has decided that's no longer a high priority. They are playing at a unique scale: even a "narrow interest" feature with .1% take rate is millions of people they snub if they break it. That's a huge responsibility and they used to be very good and respecting it. The fact they backpedaled some of the…

You don't understand why Rounded Corners are Better? Oh my! It's because they're New and Refreshed! But don't worry, in Windows 12 there will be Square Corners, and they'll be Brand New and Re-Refreshed!

Re: Windows Returns

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Post by mcswell »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #16
Joker_vD wrote: post #7

> introduce a new Copilot key to Windows 11 PCs. Wait, like, on the keyboards? The keyboards that already have those bloody useless Windows and Menu keys between the AltGr and the right Ctrl? Where the hell are they gonna put that new key, exactly?

> those bloody useless Windows and Menu keys between the AltGr and the right Ctrl? If you didn't learn to use them for more than a quarter of century thrn it says more about you than of the usability of those keys. Maybe you are that ... person what shoves PrtScr in the place of ContextMenu on ThinkPads.

Can you say ? I didn't think so.

Re: Windows Returns

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Post by nathanasmith »

flir wrote: post #4

"That latency, frustratingly enough, doesn’t come from the actual rendering, which happens locally on that beefy hardware, but rather the fact that Cocreator validates everything with the cloud for “safety”" oh boy

Imagine if the original printing press had had this functionality.

Re: Windows Returns

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Post by eviks »

Joker_vD wrote: post #7

> introduce a new Copilot key to Windows 11 PCs. Wait, like, on the keyboards? The keyboards that already have those bloody useless Windows and Menu keys between the AltGr and the right Ctrl? Where the hell are they gonna put that new key, exactly?

Instead of the wide spacebar would be nice, but that's not going to happen

Re: Windows Returns

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Post by NikkiA »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #37
flohofwoe wrote: post #30

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Not unusual though? FWIW I use Windows since Win95 and never use the Windows or Menu key (I typically live in the terminal, but can't imagine navigating the start menu or context menues with the keyboard).

I use Windows since 3.1. At the very-very least there is always Win+L. There is a navigation block (arrows, Home/End, PgUp/PgDown) which is used extensively with Ctrl and Shift when editing text and navigating files and ContextMenu is used when I need a context menu without changing my hand to the mouse to RMB. Also you can use RWin+ many keys on the right side for your own hotkeys, without clashing with the built-in…

Win+1..Win+0 for taskbar pinned apps is the fastest way...

Re: Windows Returns

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Post by justsomehnguy »

NikkiA wrote: post #66
justsomehnguy wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Windows since 3.1. At the very-very least there is always Win+L. There is a navigation block (arrows, Home/End, PgUp/PgDown) which is used extensively with Ctrl and Shift when editing text and navigating files and ContextMenu is used when I need a context menu without changing my hand to the mouse to RMB. Also you can use RWin+ many keys on the right side for your own hotkeys, without clashing with the built-in…

Win+1..Win+0 for taskbar pinned apps is the fastest way...

While this is true (and RWin+7..0 is sometimes a better combo for the right hand), it's only limited to the apps on the taskbar.

I don't need eg IrfanView or VLC in my taskbar all the time, so they are pinned in the Start Menu instead.

Re: Windows Returns

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Post by NikkiA »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #67
NikkiA wrote: post #66

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Win+1..Win+0 for taskbar pinned apps is the fastest way...

While this is true (and RWin+7..0 is sometimes a better combo for the right hand), it's only limited to the apps on the taskbar. I don't need eg IrfanView or VLC in my taskbar all the time, so they are pinned in the Start Menu instead.

I use Keypirinha* for launching (almost) everything that's not on my taskbar...

* and yes, I know it's essentially abandoned, I've tried the 'spiritual successors' and never found one that is quite as close to ideal workflow for me

Re: Windows Returns

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Post by CatWChainsaw »

flir wrote: post #19
jprete wrote: post #11

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I'm usually somewhat understanding of this kind of thing, but this should be a local app only doing local things, not validating content with the cloud for safety. Not only does that mean that MS is putting a filter gate on your own content - not only does that make MS a natural target for both law and IP enforcement even though the content is local - but it also means MS can harvest all of the data if they so choose…

my thoughts were similar. they want to fisher-price their cloud services? ok, fair enough it's their hardware. mobile phone apps? well I don't like it, but that ship has sailed. my own personal computer? oh hell no. I don't like where this is heading at all .

Controlling what is possible to do on a machine means that the future is guaranteed to proceed according to how Microsoft wants it. Forget zombie companies, we'll have deity companies - all-powerful, merciless, and they will never die.
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