Assange loses extradition appeal • Hacker News Board

Re: Assange loses extradition appeal

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Post by retrogradeorbit » Thu, May 31, 2012, 9:27 AM UTC

bobsy wrote: post #3

I have no opinion on what is happening to Assange. I don't know enough facts. I find it unlikely that there is a big conspiracy involving America though. I find it somewhat ridiculous the number of appeals you can have. Assange lost on the original verdict, then the appeal. He can then appeal again. I assume if that fails he can appeal to some EU court? Its like the deportation of Abu Qatada. One has so many appeals…

> I find it unlikely that there is a big conspiracy involving America though.

You find it unlikely because you are clearly ignorant of the facts.

You really need to widen your reading with an opinion like that. I suggest books like "Classified Woman" by Sibel Edmonds, "Ghost Wars" by Steve Coll or "Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker.

Note I'm not saying there IS an American conspiracy. I'm saying the fact that you find it UNLIKELY that there is a conspiracy is naive and ignorant of how American power actually works (as opposed to how it advertises it works).

Re: Assange loses extradition appeal

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Post by impldefined » Thu, May 31, 2012, 3:01 PM UTC

fusiongyro wrote: post #54

mtgx wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should Dalai Lama turn himself in to the Chinese authorities, too? Even if Assange was completely innocent, that wouldn't stop the US Government from trying to put him in a cell next to Bradley Manning for 2 years, if they were really pissed off at him. These days when you piss of the top hierarchy of the US Government, you're guilty until proven innocent.

Like I said, an appeal to paranoia. Is it really so hard to imagine he might stand a fair trial in either country?

Yes it is. He's committed no crime against the US at all so why do they want him? They can't charge him for anything so it's pretty clear he won't be getting a fair trial or any at all.

Re: Assange loses extradition appeal

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Post by HalibetLector » Thu, May 31, 2012, 3:28 PM UTC

fusiongyro wrote: post #54

mtgx wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should Dalai Lama turn himself in to the Chinese authorities, too? Even if Assange was completely innocent, that wouldn't stop the US Government from trying to put him in a cell next to Bradley Manning for 2 years, if they were really pissed off at him. These days when you piss of the top hierarchy of the US Government, you're guilty until proven innocent.

Like I said, an appeal to paranoia. Is it really so hard to imagine he might stand a fair trial in either country?

Ask Bradley Manning.