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Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by rrreese » Mon, May 28, 2012, 8:24 AM UTC

tomjen3 wrote: post #50

elithrar wrote: post #9

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> Forget the next SoLoMo craze - who wants to disrupt Adobe? They need it. I agree. As a photographer, I use Lightroom and Photoshop for most of my post-processing needs. Lightroom, when it hit, barely felt like an Adobe application (it's great), but Photoshop has always been a nightmare of crashes. CS5 on OS X is especially bad. As an experiment, I tried to use (only) Lightroom and Pixelmator[1], which is the closes…

Considering that gimp is out as 2.8 now, and will properly hit 3.0 before this mythical competitor can be written, what does Photoshop have that Gimp doesn't?

I tried the Gimp out in October last year in relation to photography. I found it pretty horrible. I had to download a third party RAW plugin. The plugin didn't support one of my newer cameras RAW files. With the files it did support the UI was a mess, and vastly less intuitive then Adobes raw offering.

Once I had a photo in the Gimp, the most obvious thing missing was non destructive smart objects and filters/adjustment layers. These are a pretty big deal for me, which is a shame, because I would like to see the Gimp progress - it still has a long way to go.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by davidwtbuxton » Mon, May 28, 2012, 8:58 AM UTC

droithomme wrote: post #15

Many years ago the number one page layout program was Quark Xpress. The company decided to save money by firing all their employees who developed the program and were familiar with the code base and save money by outsourcing all development to a code team overseas who was not familiar with page layout software or the Mac platform Quark ran on. This outsourcing team would appear on development boards asking extremely…

Also helped that InDesign was less than half the price of Quark and that Quark had been gouging customers for years. Most design departments would remember the premium charged just for the PowerPC version of XPress over the 68k version.

The one thing that really held back InDesign at first was the hideous amounts of RAM it required just to say hello.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by whatusername » Mon, May 28, 2012, 9:28 AM UTC

kalleboo wrote: post #53

And if you happen to live outside of the U.S., you get to pay twice a much for the exact same digital download. Adobe make it really difficult to want to buy their products.

So I saw this on /r/australia recently: http://i.imgur.com/zhLJO.jpg

http://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/tcx5s/i_unknowing...

Not quite legal -- but possibly close enough.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by batista » Mon, May 28, 2012, 9:31 AM UTC

>And then, the nightmare began. I asked the support person when I should expect my serial number. Expecting an answer somewhere in the neighbourhood of 5-10 minutes, you can imagine my surprise when I was told “in the next 24–48 hours.”

We really have trivialized words like "nightmare" to death in the first world.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by JoshuaRedmond » Mon, May 28, 2012, 9:33 AM UTC

Aramgutang wrote: post #41

elithrar wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Forget the next SoLoMo craze - who wants to disrupt Adobe? They need it. I agree. As a photographer, I use Lightroom and Photoshop for most of my post-processing needs. Lightroom, when it hit, barely felt like an Adobe application (it's great), but Photoshop has always been a nightmare of crashes. CS5 on OS X is especially bad. As an experiment, I tried to use (only) Lightroom and Pixelmator[1], which is the closes…

I couldn't agree more with the sentiment that Lightroom doesn't feel like an Adobe product because it just works so well (barring speed issues that crop up on some machines). The purchase process for Lightroom 3 a year or two ago, however, was a stark reminder of who I was dealing with. I purchased an education license online, going through the convoluted student status verification process (which was incredibly unin…

Lightroom 4 is available to purchase now, but the buying process is still unintuive (at least as far as the education verification process is concerned). In a moment of madness I decided go for the physical copy, but that just yielded a ridiculous level of nested packaging for what was just a cd in a sleeve with a key stuck to the back.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by batista » Mon, May 28, 2012, 9:33 AM UTC

DavidAbrams wrote: post #52

esusatyo wrote: post #35

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Perhaps this kind of stories is what makes the App Store very successful.

But it's not without its idiotic blunders. Topping the list is Apple's insistence that your user ID be an E-mail address. That's not just a bad idea, but it has resulted in untold numbers of people with numerous Apple IDs and content bought with all of them.

Which you can merge to the same account [edit: actually, no, you can just use in tandem].

But, really, how would that be different if the user ID was a random name? People could still have "numerous Apple IDs and content bought with all of them".

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by zader » Mon, May 28, 2012, 9:34 AM UTC

timr wrote: post #59

michaelpinto wrote: post #20

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I remember that so well! Adobe was brilliant: They gave away InDesign for next to nothing -- made it THE upgrade path to their PageMaker users and owned the market. My understanding was that Quark was a private company so they never had the cash to go after Adobe, also unlike Adobe they were a one product company (and their multimedia offering was terrible).

Believe it or not, Quark initiated a takeover attempt of Adobe around 1998 or so. Adobe had been hurting pretty badly at the time, and their stock was so low that Quark thought that they might be able to buy them and take them private. I was there...they herded everyone down to an all-hands meeting, and announced that they had made an unsolicited offer to buy Adobe. The room went nuts, but I remember a few of the mor…

Interesting story.

For anyone else wondering what a "poison pill" is, in this context:

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/poisonpill.asp

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by batista » Mon, May 28, 2012, 9:34 AM UTC

theevocater wrote: post #37

elithrar wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Forget the next SoLoMo craze - who wants to disrupt Adobe? They need it. I agree. As a photographer, I use Lightroom and Photoshop for most of my post-processing needs. Lightroom, when it hit, barely felt like an Adobe application (it's great), but Photoshop has always been a nightmare of crashes. CS5 on OS X is especially bad. As an experiment, I tried to use (only) Lightroom and Pixelmator[1], which is the closes…

For what its worth, I use aperture and pixelmator together to do all my photo processing.

As a photo / design professional or a casual user?

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by cientifico » Mon, May 28, 2012, 9:40 AM UTC

Wait until a professional engineer review the version and publish it on piratebay. Probably the process on downloading, and make it work on your machine, is faster through piratebay than from the official webpage.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by digitalengineer » Mon, May 28, 2012, 9:51 AM UTC

Oh, with Adobe there are different kinds of hell: "Adobe’s rep told me that she’s very sorry, but I simply cannot buy CS 5.5 via the website. I must have an American billing address, or else they can’t sell me the product. Can’t buy it on the site, big deal. But wait, the plot thickens." http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/adobe-actively-encouraging-inte...

Or: Why are UK prices nearly double US prices? It's cheaper to fly the team up to New York and buy the software there. https://getsatisfaction.com/adobe/topics/why_are_uk_prices_n...