Let's keep livestock in poor conditions and give them antibiotics to survive, then complain about the consequences
Are antibiotics suddenly a factor in viral infections?
H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread
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There's more alt-milks than I can count. While cow's milk obviously is used to produce other things, we can drastically reduce the need for it by moving to other kinds of milk for the liquid-consumption part.
Alt milks are usually ultra processed and quite unhealthy compared to regular milk. Not sure this is a viable alternative.
You can make your own oat milk with organic oats in like 1 minute with a blender and strainer. Not sure that qualifies as ultra processed, but there’s no risk of H5N1 so I think I’ll stick with it.
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#63Re: H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread
#64Unlike with covid, we know how to make flu vaccines on a large scale. Is there a reason why we couldn’t also preemptively vaccinate against H5N1 during regular seasonal vaccination campaigns?
This is what you’re looking for.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/candidate-vaccine-virus.htm
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Non factory farming. Prices will go up and this would be a good thing in addition to treating the animals in a more moral way.
Well that make poor folks harder to fulfill nutrition requirements. Especially for kids that'd be devastating.
The distribution of resources of the world is grossly unfair. Two things need to happen: fewer people and a cap on how much one person has.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's more alt-milks than I can count. While cow's milk obviously is used to produce other things, we can drastically reduce the need for it by moving to other kinds of milk for the liquid-consumption part.
Which of those alt milks are produced using biodiversity supporting practices? Oat? Soy? Almond?
You mean juice, right? As far as I know Oat, Soy and Almond contain no milk.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Non factory farming. Prices will go up and this would be a good thing in addition to treating the animals in a more moral way.
Well that make poor folks harder to fulfill nutrition requirements. Especially for kids that'd be devastating.
When my mom was growing up she had organ meats pretty regularly, as it was cheaper and they didn’t have a lot of money.
Over in Scotland their national dish is haggis, which is a bunch of organ meats minced up, and then they add in some oats to bulk it up and make it go further.
There are solutions to use more of the animal and stretch it. I almost never hear about people eating organ meats in the US anymore. People just find factory farmed cuts at rock bottom prices.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Alt milks are usually ultra processed and quite unhealthy compared to regular milk. Not sure this is a viable alternative.
You're going to have to provide some sources if you'll be making such bold claims ...
I'll bite. I'm currently carrying a bottle of whole milk home from the shop to have a glass.
It has 15g of protein per 500ml, a ton of calcium and 350ish calories.
Super nutritious.
Re: H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread
#69Is there a significant chance of a human crossover stemming from this cow outbreak? Are the influenza virus targets in cows similar to those of humans, that adaptations for one host would be useful for the other? Is the large population size (millions of cows) worrisome for viral evolution, with the high cumulative volume of mutations? Do governments not consider mass culling an option here, the way they routinely ap…
I think there have already been cases of human crossover this year
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It doesn't need to be produced through the incredible wasteful in-between animal. People can either eat straight up plant-based food, or alternatively go for lab grown meat. There's no need to go through all the inefficiency and suffering of factory farms.
I’ve seen videos about lab grown meat being in development. Is it actually available and available at scale? I haven’t looked to see if studies have been done to look at the nutritional profile of lab grown vs normal meat. I’d be curious about that as well before I tried it.
I find the idea of lab grown meat almost comical…
So we have these animals, which eat plants and generate fuel (poop) & food (meat). Our bodies are adapted to eating them, our bodies need the same nutrients, and we’re programmed to enjoy the food. The input to this process is mostly grass and grain, both generated via solar power.
Now instead… we take grain, highly process it and make someone few people enjoy, with less nutrients, and likely some unforeseen by products. They can then sell it at a higher price.
At the end of the day, we know what works. It doesn’t make sense to try and reinvent the wheel without benefit.