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Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by wakawaka28 »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #22
wakawaka28 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In terms of geographies - one thing I read about recently is how various “online safety czars” from countries are coordinating in groups that may soon have the power to implement global content restrictions (censorship) that respect each other’s local requests on a global scale. Thankfully, this dystopian wet dream is unlikely to go far. Censorship "Czars" cannot legally disregard the laws and constitutions of their…

>In the US, we have the First Amendment, and no politician or bureaucrat has the authority to censor speech generally. But businesses do. You're about fifty years out of date: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate Christian nationalists long ago figured out they were losing the censorship battle with the postal service and governmnt...they long ago shifted to influencing every aspect of society, and on…

>But businesses do.

There is a common misunderstanding that the government can simply ask businesses to do stuff and it's still strictly business. It's not.

>Christian nationalists long ago figured out they were losing the censorship battle with the postal service and governmnt...they long ago shifted to influencing every aspect of society, and one of those is business - and by that they mean financial systems.

Blaming the overwhelming push for censorship in the 2020s on Christians is at best misguided. They are likely to be censored themselves.

>> there are seven aspects of society that believers seek to influence: family, religion, education, media, arts & entertainment, business, and government.

This describes a lot of groups. You're quoting it like the Christians are some kind of menace, but they are the least concerning of all current threats to freedom in my book. I'm an atheist, as well.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by genewitch »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #15
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually quite optimistic about this! Yes! Push the porn to the “dark web”. Make it a pain in the ass. Ask for ID. Go all out!! …because… this is how we’ll get a free internet again. This is how we’ll get real encrypted networks. This is how we go back to the good internet - except - it’s going to be harder to remove the bad stuff. But this is what they’re doing. Strangling themselves with faux-morality and New P…

The problem is that "the internet" is still a series of connected physical cables and some entities do in fact control those. They can push off people who are using encryption they don't like or serving content they don't like, if push comes to shove And for the specific people who are trying to make a living through selling smut, payment providers are making their lives hell

there's gotta be millions of USB wifi dongles sitting in cabinets and drawers around the globe. a couple "do-ers" with high chimneys can start backhauling for their neighborhood. Mirror wikipedia, podcasts, music, books, etc. The issue becomes "on demand" video stuff, which i haven't put a lot of effort into figuring out, because if i set something like this up the video would all be programmed for 720p+ and only 360p would be available on demand.

When the power goes out for multiple weeks, it doesn't affect me at all, entertainment wise. in a "oops all censored" future dystopia, i'd make sure my neighbors could access entertainment, even if it's self-serving for mine own self.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by schoen »

kelipso wrote: post #16
vonwoodson wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the TikTok ban isn't about restricting content for US users, it's about restricting the data vacuum that is the PRC. TikTok has already been banned for Govmnt employees for years. And, for good reason. Sometimes, we have to remind ourselves that our government is not the bad guy. The bad guys are the bad guys; and those bad guys aren't often bad to their own kind.

It's pretty obvious the tiktok ban was due to the Israel-Palestine conflict and thus is about restricting US users. It literally got passed in the same bill as Israel funding too.

I actually hadn't heard this theory until I read it on Wikipedia about an hour before your reply. I don't think the "same bill as Israel funding" is enough to make this obvious without other context, though: after all, that same bill includes military funding for Taiwan and Ukraine, too, and combining them was largely a parliamentary tactic to make it harder for legislators to oppose portions of the combined bill, not an acknowledgement that they all dealt with exactly the same subject.

(You might still be right, I just don't think it's "pretty obvious".)

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by Melchizedek »

jabroni_salad wrote: post #28
_23sd wrote: post #3

I could see this being really bad for the site. A lot of Japanese illustrators were already treating it as an afterthought compared to X/Twitter, and if the new terms actively make Pixiv worse for artists in the rest of the world then its importance could decline even further.

What I don't understand is how X hasn't pulled out the hammer like other western sites have. It seems weird to me that a Japanese site who is barely in the public eye would capitulate before X who has been under a lens since musk got on board. In the recent happenings I saw plenty of illustrators get bounced back to X by moderators of fledgling platforms.

Musk saved X from basically being woke North Korea 2.0 where no debate was possible, and he’s waging his own war against government censorship in countries like Brazil and Australia (heroically and at a loss to himself IMO). I don’t think he will capitulate that easily. Musk is bad on some things (labor rights) but on free speech he’s done a lot of good.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by 0dayz »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #38

Interesting to see many of the people who cheered this type of thing when people with ideological views that don't align with their own got shut out of the financial system now are upset that similar tactics are being used against them or content they like. They were even warned that this type of thing would end up used against them but they were sure we were in a new age where only one way of thinking would be permi…

The difference is that this is self inflicted by pixiv, as neither USA nor the UK has demanded this.

However, you can certainly complain about the obscenity laws these countries have, which you know predates the internet.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by 0dayz »

kaycey2022 wrote: post #54
kelipso wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's been wider awareness of how pornography is harmful to boys especially, and also to men. The drive to restrict pornography from children and relegation of pornography to seedier parts of the internet makes complete sense as a response to this.

It’s unfortunate you are being downvoted. Porn is very harmful indeed. I can’t think of any benefit in it being normalised. Maybe the defence of porn is motivated by the fact that other violent forms of expression have already been normalised. But I don’t see how that takes away from the dangers, access to porn presents for significant numbers of young men. People who express themselves through the creation of panora…

You don't provide any arguments but just grand stand and expect people to magically align with you.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by red003 »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #38

Interesting to see many of the people who cheered this type of thing when people with ideological views that don't align with their own got shut out of the financial system now are upset that similar tactics are being used against them or content they like. They were even warned that this type of thing would end up used against them but they were sure we were in a new age where only one way of thinking would be permi…

I feel like most of these efforts are directed at MindGeek with artwork sites being innocent bystanders. If I was conspiratorial, I might wonder if MindGeek wants to keep the narrative focused on victimless artwork instead of their human trafficking.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by red003 »

vibero wrote: post #46
commandlinefan wrote: post #2

I've been thinking all my adult life that, eventually, society has _got_ to get more reasonable about the human body but... there doesn't seem to be any evidence that we're getting anywhere close anytime soon.

Did you read this section of the article: > The restrictions include several kinds of content that are illegal in the US, including sexualized depictions of minors and bestiality, as well as non-consensual depictions and deepfakes. This has nothing to do with being "more reasonable about the human body", as you euphemistically put it.

Pornographers are disgusting people hiding behind fake principles.
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