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Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest

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Re: Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest

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Post by jvanderbot »

skilled wrote: post #2

I think the biggest effect of this is going to be that a lot of creators are about to lose a lot of money that they were generating from sponsorships: whether above or below the table. But most will slowly migrate to other platforms due to uncertainty (users and advertisers), though it remains to be seen exactly to where. Maybe Snap? YT Shorts is bad, as are most other “shorts as a feature” platforms where discovery…

Why do people believe that TikTok will stop functioning? That is not the intent, and is not the likely outcome. TikTok will just not be owned by a Chinese company.

Re: Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest

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Post by goliathDown »

willio58 wrote: post #7

I can almost hear the Meta execs cackling in their bathtubs of cash. Seriously though, this decision just feels unsubstantiated and rushed. There are so many claims of manipulation and our data being used by China via TikTok but I can't help but feel a company like Instagram does the exact same thing but it's not a Chinese company so we are just... okay with that?

Isn't China THE foreign adversary though? I think there's a difference between a media company housed in the UK or France versus China or Russia.

Re: Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest

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Post by intellix »

if you've been to China, you'll know that they ban all western products: facebook, google, etc etc and replaced them with their own variants. If they want to run around free-range without any restriction with their own products then they should respond by loosening restrictions in their own country.

This is an absolute no-brainer. If you want Tik Tok in the US, lower your middle finger. Am I missing something?

Re: Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest

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Post by dirtybirdnj »

If your not banning tiktok for it's ownership opacity... ban it for destroying attention span and training people into being mindless content consumption robots.

We regulate cigarettes and heroin this is a much bigger problem than people give it credit for.

It's an even worse problem if a bad actor is using it subtlety to influence a population.

It doesn't matter if ByteDance or FB are doing this they should both burn to the ground for the damage they have done to the Internet and society.

Re: Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest

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Post by wavemode »

returningfory2 wrote: post #38

The work "ban" is in scare quotes for a reason. The law doesn't ban TikTok. Rather, it bans TikTok from having Chinese owners. If the law stands, the end result will likely be that TikTok will be sold to US owners, rather than TikTok going away. It's surprising to me that this this pretty significant distinction has been glossed over both in media reporting and in general comments here on HN. To be clear, I'm not sup…

I'm fairly certain the title of this article already makes that perfectly clear: "starting clock for ByteDance to divest it". If anyone is unclear on what is meant, that is purely a failure of reading, not a failure of media reporting.

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Post by MaxHoppersGhost »

bluSCALE4 wrote: post #55

Crazy, all the spying we do and we can't provide any definitive proof of anything yet we're jumping to banning a company. Looks like all that red scare stuff isn't a thing of the past, eh? And we all get to suffer for it. From losing a platform, to facing shadow bans with no recourse, to laws being passed that continue to stamp out our civil liberties to the point that we forget they were even there, what's it all fo…

China can and already has used tiktok to influence the U.S. population. Just because the US spies a bunch doesn’t mean we shouldn’t protect our best interests.

Re: Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest

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Post by afiori »

dralley wrote: post #45
willio58 wrote: post #7

I can almost hear the Meta execs cackling in their bathtubs of cash. Seriously though, this decision just feels unsubstantiated and rushed. There are so many claims of manipulation and our data being used by China via TikTok but I can't help but feel a company like Instagram does the exact same thing but it's not a Chinese company so we are just... okay with that?

TikTok substantiated it almost immediately with their little stunt that resulted in thousands of 10-13 year olds calling their congressmen.

Notifying users that a service they use is about to become illegal does not sound like the covert manipulation congress was afraid of.

Re: Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest

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Post by micromacrofoot »

willio58 wrote: post #7

I can almost hear the Meta execs cackling in their bathtubs of cash. Seriously though, this decision just feels unsubstantiated and rushed. There are so many claims of manipulation and our data being used by China via TikTok but I can't help but feel a company like Instagram does the exact same thing but it's not a Chinese company so we are just... okay with that?

Yes, we're not only ok with it as a country... it's strongly supported.
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