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Re: AltStore. The first Apple approved alternative App Store

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Post by rcarmo »

jorams wrote: post #44
rcarmo wrote: post #33

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You must be new to mobile, and Apple, and notarisation. I can build and install it myself, but even with a developer account it's a hassle. The key problem with iOS app distribution isn't alternate app stores--it's enabling end users to run their own apps on their own devices without timeouts or jumping through hoops, and nobody seems interested in fixing that.

The problems you talk about are deliberately created by Apple and only fixable by Apple. If you buy an iOS device you're opting in to whatever bullshit Apple comes up with that isn't explicitly regulated away, and when regulation is introduced Apple has made clear that they will do whatever they can to avoid complying with the spirit of said regulation. The creator of Delta is pushing the first regulation-protected r…

I will stop buying Apple devices when there are quality alternatives, hardware and ecosystem-wise. Android is (still) neither at this point.

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Post by metalspoon »

talldayo wrote: post #3
TheJoeMan wrote: post #2

Unfortunately paying Apple’s extortion fee might provide ammo to legitimize it.

Someone ends up paying Apple either way. On the App Store, that person usually ends up being the developer. With the new framework (stupid as it may be), developers can choose to externalize that cost to users and make an example of how ridiculous it is. With high-demand apps like emulators, it's easy to attract users and directly expose them to the limits Apple imposes on them. That's a great vehicle for change, and…

That's a common misconception about free software. Free software is about the user's right to see and modify the software. Doesn't mean people can't do business with it. You're right that they usually don't require fee for installation, but that's merely because that the source code is available on the internet, in most cases, and so the user can install it without paying anyway.

Re: AltStore. The first Apple approved alternative App Store

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Post by orf »

metalspoon wrote: post #55
aranelsurion wrote: post #39

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I'm no expert on the matter, but this is what Apple says: > All apps listed on alternative app marketplaces are submitted to a Notarization process with Apple. Notarization is a baseline review that applies to all apps, regardless of their distribution channel, focused on platform policies for security and privacy and to maintain device integrity. Through a combination of automated checks and human review, Notarizati…

Fuck Apple, I never need their check. I'm not a grandma.

Sure you did, even indirectly: would iOS still be around now if every grandma got their money stolen through iOS malware?

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Post by SpaghettiCthulu »

apantel wrote: post #48
switch007 wrote: post #38

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But you'll never be able to prove it Like my iPhone 12 getting slower and worse battery with each iOS release even with a new battery...

Yeah you can’t update these phones. Things just degrade if you do. Happily running iOS 15 on my iPhone 12.

Do older versions of iOS still receive security patches?

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Post by neonsunset »

metalspoon wrote: post #54
neonsunset wrote: post #5

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Even reading the page is mildly infuriating because how far it goes to try to scare people away into using AppStore only. I have never seen a company resist a legislation with this much effort before.

What's more stupid is that I can't install my app to my phone. Because it's supposedly not secure according to Apple. Even more stupid is that if I pay the annual developer fee to Apple, they let me install it.

You can install without a fee through your own "debug locally" certificate but it expires fast, it's a clunky process...

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Post by fsflover »

orf wrote: post #64
metalspoon wrote: post #55

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Fuck Apple, I never need their check. I'm not a grandma.

Sure you did, even indirectly: would iOS still be around now if every grandma got their money stolen through iOS malware?

Did it happen with Android yet?

Re: AltStore. The first Apple approved alternative App Store

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Post by fsflover »

rcarmo wrote: post #61
jorams wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problems you talk about are deliberately created by Apple and only fixable by Apple. If you buy an iOS device you're opting in to whatever bullshit Apple comes up with that isn't explicitly regulated away, and when regulation is introduced Apple has made clear that they will do whatever they can to avoid complying with the spirit of said regulation. The creator of Delta is pushing the first regulation-protected r…

I will stop buying Apple devices when there are quality alternatives, hardware and ecosystem-wise. Android is (still) neither at this point.

Depending on what you mean by "quality alternatives", GNU/Linux phones exist. Sent from my Librem 5.
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