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Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Post by glhaynes »

rwbt wrote: post #24
giobox wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? As someone who grew up with PAL, we were pining for your 60fps NTSC output, especially in fast games like beatem-ups etc (PAL is 50). I still remember the first time I saw an imported Japanese PS1 playing Teken 2, and how much smoother it looked on NTSC. I could never look at my PAL copy the same way again, I couldn't unsee the NTSC version. For me personally, those extra 10 frames trump the extra 100 scanlin…

I think gamers preferred NTSC (and 60Hz) but video/movie buffs adored PAL (higher resolution and 25fps being closer to film).

Honest question: is 25fps a net positive over 29.97 for 24fps content? No 3:2 pulldown judder/tearing, but speed/pitch are wrong. (Not to mention color differences, necessity of a tint knob, etc etc.) I don't recall having heard it discussed; wouldn't surprise me if some types of content are better on each system or it simply comes down to how relatively much the particular person is bothered by the downsides of each.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Post by giobox »

glhaynes wrote: post #61
rwbt wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think gamers preferred NTSC (and 60Hz) but video/movie buffs adored PAL (higher resolution and 25fps being closer to film).

Honest question: is 25fps a net positive over 29.97 for 24fps content? No 3:2 pulldown judder/tearing, but speed/pitch are wrong. (Not to mention color differences, necessity of a tint knob, etc etc.) I don't recall having heard it discussed; wouldn't surprise me if some types of content are better on each system or it simply comes down to how relatively much the particular person is bothered by the downsides of each…

It was kind of a non-issue at the time, for the simple reason the DVD format used by all the players only supported PAL 25fps or NTSC 29.976 IIRC. There was very few "official" ways to get native 24fps content into the home until Blu-Ray, and by then many TVs offered a 24p mode to go with it. Neither PAL nor NTSC is ideal for 24fps content.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Post by m463 »

phantompeace wrote: post #62

Hmm, my Apple ID is set to the UK, i paid using a UK card (Monzo), whilst connected to my home VPN (tunnelled) but currently abroad on holiday in Asia and it’s telling me I need to physically be in the EU to install it…

No matter what apple says about privacy being a right, they don't let your location be private to their business.

I remember years ago turning off location services on my iphone, and finding my iphone connecting to .ls.apple.com all the time (location services).

I just think people don't want to give up control. They just trick/force/wear down people/customers until they give up their* control.

It's too bad. I remember reading Matt Ridley's "the rational optimist" I think he said that when trading partners have trust, trading is unlimited.

If I was treated with respect by apple, I would have trust and buy all kinds of things from them. Instead, I have to do this careful calculus, with devices, upgrades, apps and usually do not.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Post by [deleted] »

glhaynes wrote: post #61
rwbt wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think gamers preferred NTSC (and 60Hz) but video/movie buffs adored PAL (higher resolution and 25fps being closer to film).

Honest question: is 25fps a net positive over 29.97 for 24fps content? No 3:2 pulldown judder/tearing, but speed/pitch are wrong. (Not to mention color differences, necessity of a tint knob, etc etc.) I don't recall having heard it discussed; wouldn't surprise me if some types of content are better on each system or it simply comes down to how relatively much the particular person is bothered by the downsides of each…

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Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Post by ktosobcy »

phantompeace wrote: post #62

Hmm, my Apple ID is set to the UK, i paid using a UK card (Monzo), whilst connected to my home VPN (tunnelled) but currently abroad on holiday in Asia and it’s telling me I need to physically be in the EU to install it…

Would that even work in the UK considering Brexit el al?

Besides Apple already mentioned that it's location based and if you go out of the EU you will only have about month of "trial" to use the apps... Apple can go to hell :D

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Post by KeplerBoy »

phantompeace wrote: post #62

Hmm, my Apple ID is set to the UK, i paid using a UK card (Monzo), whilst connected to my home VPN (tunnelled) but currently abroad on holiday in Asia and it’s telling me I need to physically be in the EU to install it…

The UK hasn't been part of the EU for quite some time now.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Post by [deleted] »

giobox wrote: post #63
glhaynes wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: is 25fps a net positive over 29.97 for 24fps content? No 3:2 pulldown judder/tearing, but speed/pitch are wrong. (Not to mention color differences, necessity of a tint knob, etc etc.) I don't recall having heard it discussed; wouldn't surprise me if some types of content are better on each system or it simply comes down to how relatively much the particular person is bothered by the downsides of each…

It was kind of a non-issue at the time, for the simple reason the DVD format used by all the players only supported PAL 25fps or NTSC 29.976 IIRC. There was very few "official" ways to get native 24fps content into the home until Blu-Ray, and by then many TVs offered a 24p mode to go with it. Neither PAL nor NTSC is ideal for 24fps content.

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Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Post by kmeisthax »

lxgr wrote: post #12
nerdjon wrote: post #8

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https://apps.apple.com/us/app/delta-game-emulator/id10485246... It is there. According to the verge it is also identical: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24132984/delta-free-emula... Curious why it is not available in the EU on the App Store (if it really isn't, I can't confirm)

Presumably to encourage people to subscribe to the AltStore, which doesn't feel like a very classy move. (Update below – it might be because of Apple's CTF.) This is in addition to a somewhat dubious licensing clause on the Delta GitHub repo that violates the GPL, under which most of the emulator cores it uses are licensed: https://github.com/rileytestut/Delta/issues/296 On the other hand, due to how Apple's EU "comp…

Regarding Delta and AGPLv3: I'm not entirely convinced the current Delta terms are actually in violation of AGPLv3.

For context:

> Due to the licensing of emulator cores used by Delta, I have no choice but to distribute Delta under the AGPLv3 license. That being said, I explicitly give permission for anyone to use, modify, and distribute all my original code for this project in any form, with or without attribution, without fear of legal consequences — unless you plan to submit your app to Apple’s App Store, in which case written permission from me is explicitly required. Dependencies remain under their original licenses.

Basically, "I grant you the combined work under AGPLv3, plus an exception for my original code." You can make use of the exception iff either that original code is separable from the rest of the work or all other involved copyright holders grant identical exceptions. The "No further restrictions" clause can only apply to code that Riley Testut does not own and is using under the AGPLv3 license.

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