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Ubuntu 24.04 (and Debian) removed libsystemd from SSH server dependencies

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Re: Ubuntu 24.04 (and Debian) removed libsystemd from SSH server dependencies

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It's not common, no offense but you clearly have an axe to grind and started out with an incomplete understanding, so [citation needed]. Also, please do name and shame , especially since MICROSOFT MANDATES THAT SECURE BOOT IS DISABLE-ABLE (on x86 devices, anyway, we'll see what happens with Snapdragon X Elite devices).

let's agree that real surveys of real equipment, with names and model numbers, are a "thing" .. yes

LOL mods.

1. The comment doesn't respond to any claims I made.

2. The comment doesn't do the bare minimum to back up their claims, after spouting already wrong information in this thread. (Sorry, not sorry, but if you're going to complain a device is non-compliant with MS's own SecureBoot requirements, it's really shouldn't be unexpected that someone might ask you to specify which device.)

3. Their comment is pithy, non-responsive, and doesn't advance the conversation in any meaningful way.

And mine is the one that gets modded?

EDIT: Also, a 22-hour old thread, with a reply getting flagged in <10 minutes. Hmmmmmmmmmm, wonder what that means.

Re: Ubuntu 24.04 (and Debian) removed libsystemd from SSH server dependencies

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It’s interesting you say that? It runs completely counter to my experience coming from the “BSD-style” rc.d init Arch used to use, and migrating to systemd. Any specific issues? I didn’t see any. No offense. One factor may be that Arch prioritizes not patching upstream - helped save them from targeting here, and it doesn’t go overboard with default configs, which I’ve long appreciated. Not to distro-war, I’m very gra…

> I’m not sure how often it’s posted here but Benno Rice formerly of FreeBSD Core Team has an excellent and amusing discussion of systemd’s technical merits. IMO he makes a couple good points (and a couple poor ones), but it’s about everything except technical merits. It’s more about social and philosophical aspects.

He talks about a lot of design decisions like the units architecture and users being able to deploy their own services, but does keep it fairly high-level.
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