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Defeated CEOs are now conceding hybrid working is here to stay

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Re: Defeated CEOs are now conceding hybrid working is here to stay

#61

So many CEOs will lay people off (or implement mandatory attrition policies) at any time. Employees have learned to look out for themselves and themselves alone. CEOs and productivity can go die.

> productivity can go die. If someone on my team had that attitude I would hate to work with them. They would hold me and my projects back. So I’m glad you’re not my colleague.

your projects aren’t actually important

Re: Defeated CEOs are now conceding hybrid working is here to stay

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Privacy for me but none for thee?

Code monkeys need conference rooms twice a month

Even fairly mid-level execs are probably in meetings--whether in their offices, at home, or in conference rooms--maybe 6+ hours a day.

Re: Defeated CEOs are now conceding hybrid working is here to stay

#63
I think a lot of executives are part of the boomer generation who had a stay-at-home partner as they climbed to the top. They have no idea how much more complex the workplace is when two partners work and have kids. We have to work in open floor spaces while they have a private office. Their reality isn’t our reality.

Re: Defeated CEOs are now conceding hybrid working is here to stay

#64
I question the competency of any CEO that enforces people return to the office on a whim.

We have crossed the rubicon on remote work. The shift has been well and truly paradigmed.

To choose to restrict your candidate pool to a small geographical location, pay relocation, pay higher salaries, have a lower employee NPS, have higher company carbon emissions, whilst your competitors have a much larger non-geographically constrained talent pool, with more attractive, flexible, family-friendly working conditions and pay less for those employees, making their companies more competitive.

It’s a no-brainer. The status quo has completely shifted. Any CEO that doesn’t yet realize that should consider quitting.

Re: Defeated CEOs are now conceding hybrid working is here to stay

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The funny thing is that if they invested more and made offices into, you know, offices people would want to work there. Instead we have these open floor plan monstrosities for the hoi polloi and private offices for the masters of the universe. I have no idea what brain damage causes this but if you can't work efficiently in the space you give to your workers to work in how do you expect them to work? A more or less v…

In my experience CEOs had a modicum of a private office, but it didn't really matter. They were in hybrid mode from the start, came to the office only for meetings and signing papers and went away the rest of the time, including working from home. Two decades ago we had an hilarious all hands meeting where we scrambled to get to the office at 9AM while the big big boss would appear on screen from the corner of his ki…

The only way that many people can justify their exceptional success is to assume they themselves are exceptional. It's a nice ego stroking way to look at the world and allows them the rights to create double standards at will.

Re: Defeated CEOs are now conceding hybrid working is here to stay

#67
post #20

A lot of business executives fall into the demographic that heavily invests into commercial real estate, which is facing some substantial depreciation. Telling everyone they need to get back to the office would help to keep those prices up. To everyone else, they have no incentive to keep fighting traffic every day (and paying for it) to go to an uncomfortable place full of maybe awful people.

The funny thing is that if they invested more and made offices into, you know, offices people would want to work there. Instead we have these open floor plan monstrosities for the hoi polloi and private offices for the masters of the universe. I have no idea what brain damage causes this but if you can't work efficiently in the space you give to your workers to work in how do you expect them to work? A more or less v…

The worst of the open office trend was ripe for a backlash. CEOs should have known better in the medium term. Short term, of course it looks attractive. And no one could have predicted Covid and remote work would be a big driver of the backlash.

Re: Defeated CEOs are now conceding hybrid working is here to stay

#69
My boss (middle management) is very staunchly opposed to more than 1 day per week of WFH. She spends about 90% of her time on video calls, so I was always confused by that until she was telling me that when she does WFH she's always distracted by other things which doesn't happen in the office.

Maybe a lot of the WFH opposition is really just managers projecting their own work ethic onto others?

Re: Defeated CEOs are now conceding hybrid working is here to stay

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Privacy for me but none for thee?

Code monkeys need conference rooms twice a month

I often have to hide from folks who want to interrupt me doing my work so I can do their work for them. If I turn them down I get a bad peer review and get labelled a "Jerk" (no jerks allowed!). If I help them, I don't get to begin doing my own work till 5PM.
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